Without Oro and CS how long does Sasuke last?

The Fool

The Fool

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Not very, that is how long.

I really don't have a problem with those power ups if it were not for Sasuke's speech to Orochimaru about the snake "flying in the talons of Hawk." But now this fight just makes Sasuke look incredibly weak IMHO. His every move against Itachi depended upon the powers of the snake. And in the end, it was Orochimaru that saved his ungrateful gennin ass. Man, I just really have trouble liking a character who is that big of a hypocrite.
 
Very few of his moves depended on the cursed seal or Orochimaru, actually. He mostly fought with ninja weapons.
 
Well he lost a damn nice pair of shields. :(

Oh well, it doesn't really effect him. Other than the loss of the wings, the actual transformations 'meh worthy' at best. Hes not much weaker coming out of the fight as he was going in.
 
Actually, looking at this chapter I have to wonder if Sasuke really did lose the Cursed Seal.

As for Orochimaru, bets are he will find his way to Kabuto and become one with him.
 
Hexa said:
Very few of his moves depended on the cursed seal or Orochimaru, actually. He mostly fought with ninja weapons.
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Well, the fight is over at Amaterasu without CS-2 Wing and Oro's absorption. He did use a lot of ninja weapons though.
 
Shinkirou said:
A jutsu, most likely not related to the CS in anyway whatsoever.
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You mean the one that is basically a snake shedding it's skin. And the title of the thread is ...? Did we forget about the Kunai that the snake blocked when Itachi and his KB got the jump on him?
 
Perverted King said:
Who said Sasuke lost the CS? There's not an angle accurate enough to tell.
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Well Zetsu confirmed that Susanoo ripped Orochimaru's powers away from him, I am only assuming, but I think that includes CS considering thats how Orochimaru manifested.

And yeah Sasuke pretty much sucks right now without Oro's powerups. Hes the only sharingan user alive with no MS (including Kakashi who aint even an Uchiha) and now he has no CS which means he cant even take on Pre Skip Naruto lol. Plus he now has no healing power

So at this point in time....he's fucked. But Kishi will remedy that soon I would imagine
 
Adrianhamm said:
You mean the one that is basically a snake shedding it's skin. And the title of the thread is ...? Did we forget about the Kunai that the snake blocked when Itachi and his KB got the jump on him?
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Well seeing as how he wasn't missing it then it doesn't matter, because now he'll know he cant use that so he'll use something else.

As for the jutsu, prove it had anything to do with the CS. Prove it, I dare you.
 
I think it just seemed like he used CS a lot because using it has been set up as wrong and he shouldn't have used it at all. If it really is that big of a deal, then it's just an opportunity to get even stronger. That's what happens in these kinds of scenarios.
 
Hexa said:
One jutsu? I'm not saying that didn't snake abilities at all since that's not correct. What is correct is that he didn't use them very often.
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Well, the way I see it there were only a few exchanges in this fight despite the length --- maybe about four exchanges. In two of those exchanges, Oro or CS saved Sasuke from near certain death -- against Amaterasu and Susano'o.
 
The loss of a power-up is only there to make way for a new one. It's too hasty to make such a decision. Why don't you wait for the beginning of the next Sasuke fight before you make any judgements?
 
I hope he did lose the CS. I think that he's gonna blame oro for not having a true win and thus the begging of his own powers with out the help of Oro. It's also helps show that vegence is not the right path.
 
Hexa said:
One jutsu? I'm not saying that didn't snake abilities at all since that's not correct. What is correct is that he didn't use them very often.
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what the starter is saying is how long would sasuke have lasted with out CS or Oro

atleast that makes more sence too me

any way's
its obvious sasuke just got a huge power down and i mean huge

without curse seal he would of never beat Oro
never blocked Juugo's attack
survive Diedara
Survive Itachi let alone the MS attacks
Hell with out CS he wouldnt have beaten Naruto or lasted against Gaara

and all the sumoning spaming he has done might of been thanks too Oro's power
and he would of never even gotten up after the dei fight if it wasnt for Oro's power

so Sasuke's development will mostlikly include getting the MS
 
Shinkirou said:
Well seeing as how he wasn't missing it then it doesn't matter, because now he'll know he cant use that so he'll use something else.

As for the jutsu, prove it had anything to do with the CS. Prove it, I dare you.
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I've already proved he used Oro's jutsu and CS in this fight despite protests to the contrary.
 
He isn't that much weaker. He just loses his shield wings/ability to fly along with Regen/Kawarimi.

His fighting style or his effectiveness isn't reduced by all that much.

I say he makes it to Amaterasu.
 
didnt he need CS just to break itachi's initial tsukoyomi? he certainly needed oro to escape amaterasu. so yeah not long at all
 
Doesn't matter, he'll probably get another ridiculous power up that makes no sense whatsoever. Hawk power anyone?
 
What did Sasuke get with Oro and the CS?

Lets see here...

Oro: Quicker healing (White Snake power)
CS: Wings for flight & defense and the ability to force out chakra

He doesn't lose his Sharingan, genjutsu, Chhidori Variants, Katons, Kirin, summoning, hidden snake hands, that replacement technique, and his speed.

Sasuke's base form is still powerful. And still > Konoha :pek
 
dr.psycho said:
Doesn't matter, he'll probably get another ridiculous power up that makes no sense whatsoever. Hawk power anyone?
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Maybe its time to what Madara said about shedding the serpentine scale to a HAWK. Basically Sasuke well mature/grow to more Uchiha power than defend on snake power(Oro).

Well a question is: Is there any snake technique left in Sasuke w/out the CS? ( IMO the CS is GONE for good) Consider Anko's abilitties also..
 
sasuke doesnt get past tsukiyomi, if he doesnt have oro or cs, he used cs and hatred to break the tsukiyomi, otherwise he would have been finished
 
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