Why Sasuke didn't kill Orochimaru...

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So after this battle a lot of things came clearer.

It is not that Sasuke didn't kill Oro but rather that he couldn't kill Oro.

Sasuke is a smart guy, a guy who lived with Oro for a long period and got to know everything about him.

Sasuke knew that killing Oro was almost an impossible task, a task that would drain him and most probably put him in a hard position which Oro could have taken advantage of.

So Sasuke did the next best thing, he engulfed Oro, or in other words he possessed Oro instead of the opposite happening. This had many advantages, Sasuke got all of Oro's power and technique as well asw he got Oro under his control...but like Naruto/ Garaa/ and any other Jinchiruuki, this had a disadvantage...just like the Kyuubi and Shikuku, Oro waited for the chance to come out and take control.

Sasuke believed Oro to be weak in that respect and never believed it would come to that, or he knew but took the risk anyways since he wanted to kill his brother so much.

After all is said and done, it seems that Sasuke absorbed Oro and didn't kill him simply because he couldn't.

What does this make of Oro?

Well first, it tells us that Oro anticipated Sasuke betraying him and trying to kill him, and he prepared accordingly, he almost accepted being absorbed by Sasuke without any real fight, a fight that made many fans wonder why Oro was beaten so easily.

Oro, a genius just like Sasuke, Knew that there was no possible way to take over an Uchiha face to face, after all he did try that in the past and it was a complete failure.

So what did Oro do? he planned for this, he accepted being under Sasuke's control until the right moment came, and that is what we just saw the past few chapters.

Oro's behavior does seem to resemble Bijuus, which makes one wonder whether he really is one, or a self made one as was posted in some other thread, we might find out in the future.
 
Edo said:
So after this battle a lot of things came clearer.

It is not that Sasuke didn't kill Oro but rather that he couldn't kill Oro.

Sasuke is a smart guy, a guy who lived with Oro for a long period and got to know everything about him.

Sasuke knew that killing Oro was almost an impossible task, a task that would drain him and most probably put him in a hard position which Oro could have taken advantage of.

So Sasuke did the next best thing, he engulfed Oro, or in other words he possessed Oro instead of the opposite happening. This had many advantages, Sasuke got all of Oro's power and technique as well asw he got Oro under his control...but like Naruto/ Garaa/ and any other Jinchiruuki, this had a disadvantage...just like the Kyuubi and Shikuku, Oro waited for the chance to come out and take control.

Sasuke believed Oro to be weak in that respect and never believed it would come to that, or he knew but took the risk anyways since he wanted to kill his brother so much.

After all is said and done, it seems that Sasuke absorbed Oro and didn't kill him simply because he couldn't.

What does this make of Oro?

Well first, it tells us that Oro anticipated Sasuke betraying him and trying to kill him, and he prepared accordingly, he almost accepted being absorbed by Sasuke without any real fight, a fight that made many fans wonder why Oro was beaten so easily.

Oro, a genius just like Sasuke, Knew that there was no possible way to take over an Uchiha face to face, after all he did try that in the past and it was a complete failure.

So what did Oro do? he planned for this, he accepted being under Sasuke's control until the right moment came, and that is what we just saw the past few chapters.

Oro's behavior does seem to resemble Bijuus, which makes one wonder whether he really is one, or a self made one as was posted in some other thread, we might find out in the future.
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maximilyan said:
no... sasuke tried to kill oro. but failed as the poison was in the air.
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I am not sure about that, I believe Sasuke intended to absorb his powers.

Sasuke chose not to obtain MS, in order to face his brother he had to gain another power, and that was Oro's power.

He thought that he would be able to control him, and that was Sasuke's fault.
 
I agree that Sasuke couldn't kill Orochimaru. On the other hand, everything wasn't planned ou to this point. Sasuke didn't attack Orochimaru with the intentions of absorbing him but saw that once he was in the body transfer dimension, it was the only way he could escape with his life. Also, I doubt Orochimaru planned up until this point. With all his abilities at his disposal, Orochimaru could have just planned this once either the Uchiha confrontation began or when Sasuke absorbed him.

That's just my take on it.
 
this makes oro not looks so bad. That would also make oro's capture by susano-o's sword another plan to make everyone drop the attention from him, so he can plan some attack? *points at the snake who escaped*

yet I don't think oro is a bijuu. Couldn't Aka have tracked him down while he was still there?
 
Blaze said:
It was stated in the manga that Sasuke took over.
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Yes, but it was not stated whether that was Sasuke's intention to begin with or not.


Raiden said:
I agree that Sasuke couldn't kill Orochimaru. On the other hand, everything wasn't planned ou to this point. Sasuke didn't attack Orochimaru with the intentions of absorbing him but saw that once he was in the body transfer dimension, it was the only way he could escape with his life. Also, I doubt Orochimaru planned up until this point. With all his abilities at his disposal, Orochimaru could have just planned this once either the Uchiha confrontation began or when Sasuke absorbed him.

That's just my take on it.
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Sasuke might have wanted to kill Oro but during their fight he realized it was fruitless and so ended up absorbing him. However, Orochimaru on the other hand had a plan.

I believe Oro, being as smart as he is, anticipated that Sasuke might betray him, and therefore he had a backup plan in case it happened. During his first attempt with Itachi, Oro must have realized that it was impossible to take over an Uchiha body, he realized that the only way to do so was to actually let the Uchiha body take over his soul instead...and when the time was right, he would show up.


MS81 said:
I bet that snake is a symbol not actually being Oro.:nod
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That might be true, the snake could have been Sasuke's all along and part of his plan to beat Itachi...but I highly doubt that.

Oro's easy defeat by Itachi, makes it more difficult for us to believe that Oro is really gone.

His first defeat with Sasuke wasn't convincing and it was a more difficult defeat than this one, which can only mean that he will be back.
 
Sasuke didn't kill Oro because absorbing was better, Oro would be useless to him dead, yet absorbing him gave him new powers. Which in turn helped him in this fight.
 
I doubt that information of Orochimaru's coveted Fushi Tensei was shared with Sasuke, whom he planned on targeting it with. So intentionally using his ability in such a way that he reverse its effects was by instinct, or appears as such. There might be other complications as well, though it certainly wasn't planned for it to turn out like this.
 
Wat?


You're kidding right? The scene with the Amaterasu proved that he had planned it. He said that "he couldn't use that rebirth jutsu until Itachi used Amaterasu"
the time came, he used it and therefore saved himself. And Zetsu said that it was Orochimaru's signature jutsu.
Sasuke planned to absorb Orochimaru to use him powers, and he succeeded.
Whether he could or could not kill Orochimaru is all speculation.
 
Squiddy Avenger said:
Sasuke planned to absorb Orochimaru to use him powers, and he succeeded.
Whether he could or could not kill Orochimaru is all speculation.
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Yup, that's another take on it.

Oro's words to Itachi also prove that he had planned to stay dormant inside Sasuke, and that he anticipated Sasuke's betrayal.
 
He probably just tried to kill Oro, but settled for the next best thing, realizing that killing the bastard was outside of his power.
 
Edo said:
Oro's words to Itachi also prove that he had planned to stay dormant inside Sasuke, and that he anticipated Sasuke's betrayal.
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hmm, i guess he didn't have much choice. Sasuke's will was overwhelming him. But when Itachi survived Kirin, Sasuke's will and self-confidence took a blow, and Orochimaru surfaced :nod
 
Yeah it's definatly 100% prooven that Sasuke couldn't kill Orochimaru. But I'm fairly sure that Sasuke didn't have the whole thing planned. He was like WTF when they were in the other dimension. And I don't think he knew about Oro's snake form. He tried his best to kill Oro and got lucky because the body transfer doesn't work on Uchiha. Somthing Oro already knew.

Oro on the other hand must have had this planned. He made is obvious when he told Itachi that he was just waiting to come out. It was the last fucking day that he could do the body transfer, and he was just laying in bed all wrapped up in bandages. If he planned on taking over Sasuke the normal way, he would have gone and done it instead of just laying there. Orochimaru is a genius and a far greater one than Sasuke. That's not to say Sasuke won't definatly surpass him by the end of the manga.

I'm honestly soooooo sick of hearing Sasuke > Orochimaru from these damn Uchihatards. It just makes everything else they say about Sasuke seem like complete bullshit.
 
Squiddy Avenger said:
hmm, i guess he didn't have much choice. Sasuke's will was overwhelming him. But when Itachi survived Kirin, Sasuke's will and self-confidence took a blow, and Orochimaru surfaced :nod
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It wasn't his will and self-confidence--it was more of the lack of chakra to suppress Oro, that resulted in his emergence.
 
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