Why Germany didn't invade Switzerland in WW2?

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See the title? Why Germany didn't attack Switzerland in WW2? There's a lot of reason, in example, the General Mobilization of Switzerland in 1939, where 430,000 swiss troops is ready, but it's not effective though, a Swiss officer stated that Germans can march into Switzerland's capital with just a single tank regiment, and the equipments of Swiss Armed Forces were not updated, so what do you think is the main reason or what is your reason for that?

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Would you attack the guys that have fucktons of your stuff you gave them to keep in their safes and that they could just give to your ennemies if you pissed them off ? Like, secret documents or the whole gold and money you stole from the minorities you appress since 1936 ?

It's either blackmail, or an agreement of some sort.
 
Germany was more concerned about winning the wars with France, Britain, and later Russia and America. It drew up plans to invade Switzerland but the more urgent requirements of the War generally distracted it. Switzerland was a pest but it posed no real military threat- invasion would have been a waste of resources. It also provided economic concessions to the Third Reich, even though it's Media was openly critical of the Nazi's. Besides, it might just have suited Germany to have a place of Neutrality- and even better it knew that Switzerland was the best place for enemy spies and agents to sneak into the Reich.
 
Nobody mention the railways, tunnels and bridges in Switzerland? Switzerland offer it to Germany and Italy for their transportation
 
Switzerland was neutral, just like Sweden. Sweden was let neutral as far as they were giving III Reich steel and some other resources. No idea what was the exact deal with Switzerland, Vatican or Portugal.

Such countries become a main place for cover operations for both RSHA and Abwhere.
 
What I would say is think of the importance capturing Switzerland would've been? Would it have been as crucial of a victory if they were to have claimed there or France? Since they wouldn't have posed a threat, based on the OP's assessment, then it wasn't a battle that was really needed. If anything, I take it Germany believed that they could've beaten them at any time so there wasn't a rush. Who knows?
 
Portugal is a nation far away, and it's only small, but I think they can invade it if they want to build a port in atlantic that they're going to use to invade US, but the British will blockade it, Sweden is just like Norway, Norway fell in the Germans for only weeks, I think, but Switzerland is a small neighboring country of Germany, I hink Hitler used the banks of Switzerland, I mean, he has a lot of bank accounts:oh
 
Switzerland was neutral, just like Sweden. Sweden was let neutral as far as they were giving III Reich steel and some other resources. No idea what was the exact deal with Switzerland, Vatican or Portugal.

Such countries become a main place for cover operations for both RSHA and Abwhere.

The Vatican was in Italy; it was considered an Italian responsibility for the most part. They signed a Concordat with the Nazi's to recognise the regime and it's rights as long as the Nazi's stayed out of Catholic affairs- the Concordat was repeatedly broken. Many Catholics were ouraged by the Nazi regime but the Vatican kept silent, simply because they thought that speaking out against them would have made life hell for the millions of Catholics under the Nazi thumb (it almost certainly would have).

Portugal was some distance away, and next to neutral ally Spain, whom they would have had to go through. Salazar did'nt want to have anything to do with the Nazi's, despite his own Nationalist Ideology (he was what you might call a Benevolent Dictator), but did'nt really trust the Allies that much. Like Switzerland, it suited both sides to keep Portugal as a place of Neutrality.

Also remember that the Nazi's were not aiming to march on every corner of the Globe. Hitler wanted to take land from Eastern Europe to make Germany a large Superpower State, and only fought Britain and France because they tried to stop him. Portugal was irrelevant to his schemes.

Portugal is a nation far away, and it's only small, but I think they can invade it if they want to build a port in atlantic that they're going to use to invade US, but the British will blockade it, Sweden is just like Norway, Norway fell in the Germans for only weeks, I think, but Switzerland is a small neighboring country of Germany, I hink Hitler used the banks of Switzerland, I mean, he has a lot of bank accounts:oh

The Germans did make use of Switzerlands Banks and were allowed bu this was only natural. Switzerland was totally surrounded by the Axis powers, and both the Axis and the Allies found it convenient to solve matters of diplomacy that were'nt being resolved by the War. Don't think too much of any use Hitler made of it- Hitler was not a man that concerned with matters of Finance. More likely to get involved in that side of things were people like Goring.

You seem to be trying to find some sort of nasty conspiracy between Switzerland and the Axis powers. There certainly was a lot of Blood Money involved- inclding money stolen from Holocaust survivors- but a great deal of the Swiss rationale was simply that they did'nt want to be invaded by the tyrannical Fascist regimes. An understandable desire.
 
Switzerland, Spain and Sweden were nuetral. Discussion over. What we should be discussing is why Germany invaded Russia, even though they WERE an ally. To answer that: Germany wanted oil.
 
They weren't real allies in the traditional sense; they didn't have any agreements to help each other, simply a "we won't blow up each other and we'll split up Poland" pact.
 
Swiss=worlds bank
Swiss= Germanys richest peoples bank
Attack swiss= World will go against you
Being swiss, liveing in swiss= Lucky
 
they didnt attack switzerland because they didnt want the country to choose a side. If the germans did attack the country, then switzerland would automatically side the allies.
 
Simple reason?

The Swiss would either have kicked the ass of the Germany Military or made them pay or dearly for taking the mountain passes that it would be a pyhric victory.

The Swiss were never an offensive threat because of politics and the small size of their army; but the nature of thier terrain has made nations very cautious in attacking them.
 
wow this belongs in the konoha university subforum

i would think the main reason being there was not enough potential benefit for the potential costs, germany was much more busy elsewhere, and also switzerland was friendly enough :pek
 
Simple reason?

The Swiss would either have kicked the ass of the Germany Military or made them pay or dearly for taking the mountain passes that it would be a pyhric victory.

The Swiss were never an offensive threat because of politics and the small size of their army; but the nature of thier terrain has made nations very cautious in attacking them.

Would'nt the Germans just bomb the Hell out of them?

Send in enemy agents? Squeeze on the Economy (since Switzerland was surrounded entirely by the Axis, it would have been in a precarious position); just send in so many Millions of troops that Terrain made no difference?

I can see why Terrain would have annoyed a German invasion force, but I fail to see them losing. Also other invaders did'nt have the habit of razing entire Towns and Villages to the Ground for pissing them off- this would have caused problems for Morale in any Resistance. And there is the multi-ethnic nature of the Swis- German speaking and Italian speaking citizens may have becme suspect, dividing the population along Paranoid lines. It would'nt be much of a Pyhric victory either considering that Swtzerland is both so damn small an again, is surrounded for hundreds of Miles by the Enemy.

They probably would have dealt with them if they had won. And the Swiss would have been able to do nothing.
 
Would'nt the Germans just bomb the Hell out of them?

Send in enemy agents? Squeeze on the Economy (since Switzerland was surrounded entirely by the Axis, it would have been in a precarious position); just send in so many Millions of troops that Terrain made no difference?

I can see why Terrain would have annoyed a German invasion force, but I fail to see them losing. Also other invaders did'nt have the habit of razing entire Towns and Villages to the Ground for pissing them off- this would have caused problems for Morale in any Resistance. And there is the multi-ethnic nature of the Swis- German speaking and Italian speaking citizens may have becme suspect, dividing the population along Paranoid lines. It would'nt be much of a Pyhric victory either considering that Swtzerland is both so damn small an again, is surrounded for hundreds of Miles by the Enemy.

They probably would have dealt with them if they had won. And the Swiss would have been able to do nothing.

No, I doubt it.

You both are forgetting we're talking about air power of the 1930s and 1940s, the Germans had no radar, little electronics (radio and that was about it) none of the modern aids we take for granted. Thus flying though the mountains is dangerous even on a good day, and on a bad day it's down right sucidial. One of the most dangerous jobs the US air force did in WW2 was flying 'the hump' (the mountains between India and South Asia) to resupply our troops and allies in Asia.

Thus just flying in a mountain is treachorous.

Add to that there was no smart bombs and often you had to cluster bomb the hell out of an area to hit the target. Which means that even if you drop a 100 bombs it's a 'success' if 10% hit and remember we're talking hardened structures here so they can take hits.

Add to that the cold, snow, blizzards, it would be almost impossible to bring artillairy, you'd be attacking the high ground and so on.

So like I said it would at best be a pyhric victory especially for such a small country and that didn't even want to be involved.


Go look up the history of people successfully invading Switizerland, you'll see that precious few have managed it.

Oh and don't underestimate the Swiss army, for over 600 years Swiss mercs were prized and renowned for thier fighting and the Swiss arguably had better riffles then the Germans for most of the war.

It would definitely have been a pyhric victory considering how insiginficant and nonthreatening the Swiss were.
 
You both are forgetting we're talking about air power of the 1930s and 1940s, the Germans had no radar, little electronics (radio and that was about it) none of the modern aids we take for granted. Thus flying though the mountains is dangerous even on a good day, and on a bad day it's down right sucidial. One of the most dangerous jobs the US air force did in WW2 was flying 'the hump' (the mountains between India and South Asia) to resupply our troops and allies in Asia.

Thus just flying in a mountain is treachorous.

Add to that there was no smart bombs and often you had to cluster bomb the hell out of an area to hit the target. Which means that even if you drop a 100 bombs it's a 'success' if 10% hit and remember we're talking hardened structures here so they can take hits.

This did'nt stop Swiss towns like Schaffhausen and Zurich being Bombed during the War (by the Allies, and they were allegedly accidents, but it shows that it can be done). Also both the Axis and the Allies repeatedly violated Swiss airspace- they fought back and shot down some, and interred many pilots, but the vast majority got away with it.


Add to that the cold, snow, blizzards, it would be almost impossible to bring artillairy, you'd be attacking the high ground and so on.

So like I said it would at best be a pyhric victory especially for such a small country and that didn't even want to be involved.

The Swiss strategy for dealing with Invasion was to abandon the Cities and Economic Centres and retreat to a stronghold in the Alps, the Reduit, from where they would fight a war of Attrition for the remainder of the conflict.

In other words, they thought that in an all-out war Germany would annihilate them.

I agree that it would have been foolish and wasteful for Hitler to invade Switzerland during the war (and he planned to; make no mistake about that- he was just sidetracked by Russia and Normandy Landings), but it would be far from a Phyric victory because even the Swiss felt that they could'nt match German military might.

Go look up the history of people successfully invading Switizerland, you'll see that precious few have managed it.

Oh and don't underestimate the Swiss army, for over 600 years Swiss mercs were prized and renowned for thier fighting and the Swiss arguably had better riffles then the Germans for most of the war.

It would definitely have been a pyhric victory considering how insiginficant and nonthreatening the Swiss were.

Don't underetimate the German War Machine, which was easily far larger and more powerful than a fighting force that, to fight any invasion from Germany, stood at a measily 500,000 strong.

The Swiss had shot down German fighter planes and it's Press had openly criticised the Nazi regime. It's state of Neutrality left it a haven for Allied spies (as well as German ones, of course), and it had to repeatedly convince the Reich that it's economic concessions and appeasment made it not worth the trouble (again, Hitler planned to invade them anyway).

The Axis had a tremendous psychological advantage over the Swiss, given that they surrounded them on every side, had a tremendous run of military successes, had overall superior military forces and technology, and had a reputation for butchery towards it's conquered nations (like nearby Czechoslovakia). As the OP says, one Swiss officer said that Germany could have marched on the Capital with just one Tank regiment. Two of it's main "ethnic" groups were Germans (the majority) and Italians (though they had a strong sense of Swiss identity), and the Axis links would'nt have been unnoticed by everyone.

Were it not for more pressing matters Hiter would have invaded Switzerland, and he probably would have won. Also the people that managed to succesfully invade Switzerland included Napoleon, who did it relatively easily (though the Helvetic Republic the French set up was not exactly what you'd call efficient), and later Austria and Russia (to fight the French). This proved that a Modern army (and the Germans were, of course, far more modern than that) could take over Switzerland without too much trouble (keeping it under control is the trouble); it was also the last time Switzerland was involved in a war with a foreign power (directly).

So really, for all their military prowess the last War Switzerland fought ended in it being invaded-twice- and only because it was in the way of it's enemies warpath (Napoleon was on his way to Austria; actually; I'm not sure if it was Napoleon or just another French army).

Regardleess of whether or not it was foolish to attack Switzerland (it was not as foolish as you think), the question was why did Germany not do it.
You think it was because it would have been a military disaster- that is wrong. Hitler actually planned to invade during the war, and military strategies were drawn up to that end. The Nazi's did'nt act simply because they were distracted.
 
This did'nt stop Swiss towns like Schaffhausen and Zurich being Bombed during the War (by the Allies, and they were allegedly accidents, but it shows that it can be done). Also both the Axis and the Allies repeatedly violated Swiss airspace- they fought back and shot down some, and interred many pilots, but the vast majority got away with it.

I just have a question. The Allies had far more aircraft than the Axis. How could you really compare the two?
 
I just have a question. The Allies had far more aircraft than the Axis. How could you really compare the two?

Germany was much closer, so I don't see why numbers are an issue.
It was'nt a huge endeavour for the Nazi's to violate the airspace of a country they have borders with (and a country that was bordered by nothing but natins allied with and under occupation by said nasty Nazi's). They violated Swiss airspace several hundred times with only token- though irritating-resistance. What is the problem with threatening to bomb their cities?
 
Well the question would be why would Hitler invade Switzerland where there was nothing to going? No chance for a 2nd front to be started there by Britain or later the allies.

Norway and Greece were invaded were due to British forces threatening to start up a second front in those nations. If Britain had not got involved in the Greek Italian war then Hitler would have left it alone as he was in good relationship with both leaders. While Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary were allied to Germany like Italy so generally not occupied. Hitler did not attack anyone just for the sake of it there was a basic reason for all the nations that got invaded.

Although Switzerland did piss off america so much that near the end there was almost an undeclared war between the two nations due to US violating their air space and Swiss shooting them down.
 
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