Where's The Ninjas In Naruto These Days?

gigguk

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It seems to me that there is no longer any subtlety in this series, that cleverness has given way to obscene powers typically found in shows like Dragonball or Bleach. There doesn't seem to be any clever strategy or a reliance on a small but highly specialized skill set anymore. Everything in Naruto seems to be able landscape-altering power, creating new basic rules for the universe (one would think that the elemental tendencies one is born with would be a good place to start training), and ignoring old ones (Sasuke doesn't seem to need chakra anymore). Where did this series go wrong?

Early on the rules were laid down, that there are three schools of thought when it comes to being a ninja and each school could be mixed or specialized with an enormous potential. Ninjutsu, Naruto's equivalent to magic, Genjutsu, a kind of harnessing of an opponent's senses, and taijutsu, the basic ability to fight with or without weapons. We saw what the kids could do and it was astounding. But the important part was that we saw what the grown-ups could do. Kakashi was powerful because he was experienced, disciplined, and sharpened from years of combat. He wasn't strong because he could flatten a mountainside or level an acre of forest, he was strong because he was decisive and clever.

When other ninja appeared we still didn't see any villages sieged by one person or lightning harness without chakra. We saw speed and precision, power and grace, all carefully honed and specialized.

Now Sasuke is just running around with near god like abilities, thanks to his uber-hax jutsus (aka the sharingan), Naruto is just solving everything with the kyubi (What happened to those moments of cleverness that he used to have), and for a genjutsu type, sakura seems to prefer just smashing her way through (well at least she isn't useless anymore.)

What Naruto has become is quite disheartening for avid fans like myself who feel that the series has moved too far from what made it special to begin with. Gone are the moments where the turning point in a fight is a simple but clever trick, like the one Naruto used to force Zabuza to release Kakashi from a prison of water. These days people are immortal, can spread their consciousness through multiple bodies, or use 100 puppets at once.

It's all perfectly ridiculous, which is saying a lot for a shounen anime.
 
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Agreed. ^^

As long characters like Kiba are in the running, though, I won't complain. Not yet. It's important to have shinobi who are good at what they do, but don't excell at EVERYTHING. I use Kiba as an example because he has excellent tracking abilities but isn't about to wtfpwn Kakashi or any other Jounin.

Personally...I think Sai has the potential to become one of these people, so long as Kishimoto keeps him out of Epic Fights until he -realistically- powers up, or...hey...DOESN'T. It's okay that they fight as they are...really...I promise...

But gawd, Part I was better on the brain. :D:
 
Kishi is favoring Sasuke, and it is Sasukes year D:

Hopefully after Sasuke and then Kakashis year, we will get back to the other ninjas :wtf
 
i dont know, i thought deidara's fight was pretty clever. sasori's fight was just pulling suprises out of his asss.
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i dont read manga but that shikamaru vs hidan fight had to have a lot of cleverness in it.
but i dont think the preskip had a lot of cleverness in it as well. lets see..

clever fights

- releasing kakashi from zabuza's water prison thing was pretty clever and its actually what got me hooked.
- kakashi vs zabuza was pretty clever with the dogs and everything
- naruto vs kiba was arrite i guess with the farting
- all shikamaru fights are clever
- naruto vs neji fight was clever. never expected naruto to actually dig his way to get that hit on neji
- neji vs the bug guy from sound 5 was clever on both their parts



not so clever fights

- haku vs naruto and sasuke wasnt really clever. just introduced sasuke's sharingan and naruto's fox demon and naruto just overpowering haku.
- sasuke vs rock lee wasnt clever. just showed rock lee's technique
- rock lee vs gaara was really entertaining but no cleverness. just shear power and super quickness. no thinking involved.
- orochimaru vs sandaime was just basically them just showing off their jutsus
- for some reason i didnt find shino's fight with that sound guy all that clever. block the airholes with the bugs? i'm pretty sure those airholes can easily shoot those bugs out. i dont know it just seemed like a desperate attempt to do something clever with shino.
- chouji vs the fat guy from sound 5 was just each other powering up
- gaara vs kimmimaro was just getting out of hand with the mass amount of sand and the bones.
- sasuke vs naruto was just those two taking turns landing hits on each other.
- gaara vs naruto wasnt clever. esp since the frog was basically telling naruto what to do.
 
itchygo said:
was just basically them just showing off their jutsus
- for some reason i didnt find shino's fight with that sound guy all that clever. block the airholes with the bugs? i'm pretty sure those airholes can easily shoot those bugs out. i dont know it just seemed like a desperate attempt to do something clever with shino.

Well. The air would have compressed if the bugs didn't shoot out fast enough...effectively blowing the guy's arms off. :oh
 
This is why I don't bother to read part II... It's just like Dragonball Z to me now, just with more plot and less massive world shattering explosions.

Part I was the best, the characters acted like true ninjas in the Wave and Chuunin arcs, they showed great senses of survival, navigation, combat, and manipulation of the human mind. The series isn't really bad the way it's going, it's just... not very ninja anymore.
 
Fights wherein I can see "true ninja battles"

Water Country Arc
Chuunin Exams Arc
Every battle that Shikamaru is in it.
Pein vs Jiraiya
Battle of Hokages in the rooftop with Orochimaru
 
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