What can the Sharingan predict?

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Antitard

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Part I stated that Sharingan can predict movements. However that is too vague of a statement. The sharingan was also countered by a mist technique and it was proven it wouldn't work. Part II then came and said that it can see chakra, which is reasonable, but seeing THROUGH land which is THICKER than mist. I see a lot of inconsistencies here.

So what can the sharingan really predict? Is it limited to physical movement?

Few things:

1. Part I kakashi could not see through the mist, but Part II Sasuke could see through the ground.

2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working

3. Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Itachi's sharingan DID NOT PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL
 
Everyone should know the sharingan's abilities depend on who's fighting, their importance to the story, and who their opponent is :zaru
 
It doesn't predict anything. It just sees movement quicker and can see chakra... i don't think it actually predicts anything
 
It looks like it's just a "general increase in visual perception", and all that comes along with that. Like if you can see an opponent's movement well enough, you can make an educated guess as to how they will move next. No predictions.
 
Antitard said:
2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working
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Part II Itachi was also a clone, rather than the actual Itachi. This plays a minor factor.

The Sharingan has the ability to percieve, as it increases the user's ability of clarifying perception. It can not predict what is actually going to happen in the battle. Based on the movements of the opponent (as we see through the eyes of an Uchiha it is in a sort of slow-motion, this makes it possible for the Uchiha to predict what is going to happen next. The basis of prediction and ability to track also relies immensely on indvidual ability. It was made of chakra, not a mere mist.

If Kakashi could not see through the mist, as it was a jutsu while the ground itself is not a jutsu. Even though it is a mist allowing low visability, it is not comparable to the ground. Its not about thickness.
 
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In the Anime at VOTE Sasuke says to Naruto that he knew which of the shadow clones was the real one and he was "only playing along for old time sakes". Also he is able to predict narutos attacks and hits before they happen....
 
Antitard said:
Part I stated that Sharingan can predict movements. However that is too vague of a statement. The sharingan was also countered by a mist technique and it was proven it wouldn't work. Part II then came and said that it can see chakra, which is reasonable, but seeing THROUGH land which is THICKER than mist. I see a lot of inconsistencies here.

So what can the sharingan really predict? Is it limited to physical movement?

Few things:

1. Part I kakashi could not see through the mist, but Part II Sasuke could see through the ground.

2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working

3. Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Itachi's sharingan DID NOT PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL
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1. Part 1 kakashi couldn't see through the mist because it was a fog made out of chakra. Sharingan sees chakra as a colour. So while it might be able to see through regular mist, it can't see through what is essentially a chakra cloud if it envelops him

2. Sharingan can't discern KB, not even Byakkugan can

3. They were both predicting. How else could they have blocked each other's shuriken like that.
 
Antitard said:
Part I stated that Sharingan can predict movements. However that is too vague of a statement. The sharingan was also countered by a mist technique and it was proven it wouldn't work. Part II then came and said that it can see chakra, which is reasonable, but seeing THROUGH land which is THICKER than mist. I see a lot of inconsistencies here.

So what can the sharingan really predict? Is it limited to physical movement?

Few things:

1. Part I kakashi could not see through the mist, but Part II Sasuke could see through the ground.
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No; Sasuke saw the Chakra leaking out from Deidara's Bombs.

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Also (or alternatively) since it can see a person's Chakra flow to a minor extent, the Sharingan could have some limited X-ray vision, though no where near as powerful as the Byakugan. In that case he saw them just because the Mines were too close to the surface.

But since he specifically said he saw the colour of the Chakra of the Mines, I'm going with Option 1.

2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working
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The Sharingan could never identify Kage bunshin, and neither could the Byakugan.

If you mean that he filed to identify Kakashi sprinin up from the ground, etc., then see Option 1.

3. Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Itachi's sharingan DID NOT PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL
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Prove it.

Though, if you do, Itachi is nearly Blind. And that might just be a factor.

He also predicted enough of Sasuke's movements to fight like this:

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Everything after that is Tsuyukomi, and then his eyesight get's even worse, so if he has trouble avoiding things:

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try and consider that.

Anyway; any more questions?
 
Antitard said:
Part I stated that Sharingan can predict movements. However that is too vague of a statement. The sharingan was also countered by a mist technique and it was proven it wouldn't work. Part II then came and said that it can see chakra, which is reasonable, but seeing THROUGH land which is THICKER than mist. I see a lot of inconsistencies here.

So what can the sharingan really predict? Is it limited to physical movement?

Few things:

1. Part I kakashi could not see through the mist, but Part II Sasuke could see through the ground.

2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working

3. Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Itachi's sharingan DID NOT PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL
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1. Maybe because that was Kakashi and this was Sasuke? Sasukes sharingans been said to have more potential than Itachis, which is quite a feat.

2. KBs have the same exact amount of chakra as the original, so nobody can tell the difference.

3. They were both predicting the moves of the other. One dodged an attack, the other predicted where he was going to dodge, the first predicted the second predicting his dodge, the second then predicting his predicted prediction and so on. 2 people with = foresight cancels the advantage out, and puts them on base terms.
 
Shinkirou said:
1. Maybe because that was Kakashi and this was Sasuke? Sasukes sharingans been said to have more potential than Itachis, which is quite a feat.

2. KBs have the same exact amount of chakra as the original, so nobody can tell the difference.

3. They were both predicting the moves of the other. One dodged an attack, the other predicted where he was going to dodge, the first predicted the second predicting his dodge, the second then predicting his predicted prediction and so on. 2 people with = foresight cancels the advantage out, and puts them on base terms.
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I must disagree with no.1, Kakashi doesn't seem to have a problem predicting movements.
 
If you want to see all the sharingan powers I made a thread a while back. Just click the "9000" in my sig

Here are some good links that show the prediction
 
Antitard said:
Part I stated that Sharingan can predict movements. However that is too vague of a statement. The sharingan was also countered by a mist technique and it was proven it wouldn't work. Part II then came and said that it can see chakra, which is reasonable, but seeing THROUGH land which is THICKER than mist. I see a lot of inconsistencies here.

So what can the sharingan really predict? Is it limited to physical movement?

Few things:

1. Part I kakashi could not see through the mist, but Part II Sasuke could see through the ground.
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Sasuke could not see everything through the ground, he could see the chakra of Deidara's bombs underground.

Now Zabuza's mist was made using Chakra. If Kakashi tried to look through it he would only see a lot of chakra infront of his eye.

2. Part II Itachi did not know it was a KB Kakashi until he knew it wasn't working
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The Sharingan can only see through KB in the anime, not in the Manga.

3. Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Itachi's sharingan DID NOT PREDICT ANYTHING AT ALL
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*sigh* how do you know that? For all we know, Kishi just didn't feel like drawing Itachi predicting V.S Sasuke predicting ad infinitum. If both opponents can predict moves, it renders the point moot don't you think?
 
The Sharingan really doesn't predict a thing, but can copy movements as well as see what's going to happen next in a split second so you're prepared for an attack.
 
If you read the manga you'd see that kakashi clear states that he can see the future. the sharingan can predict any and everything. how do you think itachi knew that sasuke and sakura were feeding naruto?
 
maximilyan said:
If you read the manga you'd see that kakashi clear states that he can see the future. the sharingan can predict any and everything. how do you think itachi knew that sasuke and sakura were feeding naruto?
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Itachi knew Sasuke and Sakura was feeding Naruto??? You mean, Kakashi in the bell test. He knew because he was around the corner. And Zabuza said that he couldn't really see the "future", he just pretended too, that why Kakashi didn't know that Haku set him up until later. Kakashi just pretended to know the future to trick Zabuza out. He used his knowledge and genjutsu to confuse him. It was very cleaver though...(if you where talking about something else...sorry)
 
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