Uchiha Madara, too much.

Uchiha Q

Uchiha Q

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We know that Sasuke's goal was to kill the person who murdered his family and entire clan, he thought it was Itachi alone, But as we know its actualy Itachi and Madara who murdered the hole clan.

This means that Sasuke is far from done, I thought he would kill Itachi in this fight then settle down and mate to revive the Uchiha Clan but no.

Sasuke's next goal is to kill Madara/Tobi ,

Now....

Thats imposible :D

We know Madara > Itachi
I wont say Sasuke > Itachi nor <
Lets be fair and say Sasuke == Itachi.

This means that Sasuke < Madara.

Madara is

> AL (debatable)
> Itachi
> All akatsuki Members
> Jiraya

Madara is just so powerful i cant evin imagine at this point....

Naruto cant fight him no matter how powerful he is since Madara's EMS can control Kyuubi..

Madara right now is > everyone..

So how and who the hell is going to defeat this villan ?!

Naruto ? [ EMS > Kyuubi ]

Sasuke ? [ Sasuke = Itachi > Madra ]

AL ? [ You want fries with that ? ]

WHO!?
 
Yeah, he probably is all powerful, but like all villians he probably has some weakness that will lead to his ultimate fail.
 
"Killing Madara" is just another excuse for Sasuke to delay the mating process which he so fears.
 
That would presumably be true in his prime, before his defeat at the hands of Shodai (as well as the loss of the Kyūbi). However, the statement that Itachi made in regards to Uchiha Madara is one that leaves the opportunity for someone like Sasuke, who may not necessarily be more powerful overall, to defeat him. Though at any rate, Sasuke will need to acquire some new ability with the recent loss of the cursed seal and white snakes power.
 
who can train him better than orochimaru (the guy who knows almost all techniques in the book)

I dont think sasuke is the one who's suppose to kill madara.
 
You don't need to be stronger than a villian to beat him.

Most of akatsuki members have been defeated by weaker ninjas than themselves.

It's made in that way so the protagonists must struggle to win.

Besides Madara probably will be defeated by teamwork.
 
vagnard said:
You don't need to be stronger than a villian to beat him.

Most of akatsuki members have been defeated by weaker ninjas than themselves.

It's made in that way so the protagonists must struggle to win.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...Deidara had to struggle to kill Sasuke. <.< As ridiculously lame as it was, the villain was the underdog in that fight. In terms of the manga, the victor of that fight was an upset.

Hidan and Kakuzu also had a mutual struggle level. They were nailed with deus ex machina -- neither side was more overwhelmed than the other.
 
Uchiha Q said:
not everyone can fight with team effort.

Naruto going kn5-9 = attacking own teammates

look it up.
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Well through nine-tails would imply that it would be the actual Kyūbi, though with the presence of Yamato and Kakashi anything below or equal to Naruto's limit should be contained.
 
part one ended with naruto and sasuke fighting eachother.

part two will end with them fighting together, i can think of nothing more acceptable or preferable for this manga.
 
Malumultimus said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but...Deidara had to struggle to kill Sasuke. <.< As ridiculously lame as it was, the villain was the underdog in that fight. In terms of the manga, the victor of that fight was an upset.
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That's why I said "most" instead of "all". Sasuke is a notable exception of the rule because:

a) Currently he is potential opponent for Naruto.

b) He isn't a Leaf Ninja right now.

Malumultimus said:
Hidan and Kakuzu also had a mutual struggle level. They were nailed with deus ex machina -- neither side was more overwhelmed than the other.
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Hidan was the weakest akatsuki member and he was the only one along Pain killing one of the good guys. Hidan wasn't presented as underdog. He became one in his second battle.

Kakuzu always had the upperhand fighting several opponents at the same time. He could killed Kakashi and cia if Naruto and Yamato didn't save them.

Then Naruto failed against Kakuzu the first time and the second time he won with a one hit-kills jutsu that doesn't prove his overall superiority over him.

All akatsuki members except Deidara has been defeated under special conditions that you can't said they have been defeated because his opponent was stronger.

-Sasori: defeated by teamwork. He wanted to die at the end.
-Hidan: defeated with prep time. Shikamaru needed Asuma's sacrifice in order to win.
-Kakuzu: defeated through teamwork and with one-hit jutsu that isn't reflect of the overall skill of the ninja.
-Itachi: it was a draw. Sasuke forced Itachi to use MS... but Sasuke would die too if he didn't use Oro's power to save him twice.
 
Naruto K5-9 = Madara, so they are evenly strong? hehe, scripting joke

Anyhoo.. let's not overrate Madara too much right now. the most noteworthy attacks from Itachi where Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi. Except for the first, Sasuke withstood them all. And, probably, the only way to control Kyuubi may only work if the manifestation is showing. Naruto is trying to go Kyuubi-less. Except when he uses FRS. Which, he's not using any longer.

And it hasn't been implied that the EMS is stronger then the regular MS, it's just infinite in the way that it doesn't kill your eyes.

And why the fuck, is everyone counting out Pein? If there currently is one anti-Sharingan type, he's the one. Multiple bodies anyone? ;x
 
So amazingly powerful that he lost the First while in his prime, and was stopped again by the Fourth Hokage, the man Naruto is supposed to surpass. He's not that scary to me. :neutral
 
as far as im cocerned, the uchiha and the sharingan is becoming less and less important in this manga. ppl keep saying that only a sharingan user could beat another sharingan user but that has been proven wrong repeatedly. and if u think naruto isnt going to be the one to beat madara, ur kidding urself. but as of right now, considering madara doesnt even seem as if he has his power back, not to mention his epic failures, he's ne's not a problem... wait until we see what he does with sasuke
 
vagnard said:
You don't need to be stronger than a villian to beat him.

Most of akatsuki members have been defeated by weaker ninjas than themselves.

It's made in that way so the protagonists must struggle to win.

Besides Madara probably will be defeated by teamwork.
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quoted for the truth!

wind fueled fire bruva. :amuse
or lightning fueled wind... :notrust
 
Uchiha Q said:
We know that Sasuke's goal was to kill the person who murdered his family and entire clan, he thought it was Itachi alone, But as we know its actualy Itachi and Madara who murdered the hole clan.

This means that Sasuke is far from done, I thought he would kill Itachi in this fight then settle down and mate to revive the Uchiha Clan but no.

Sasuke's next goal is to kill Madara/Tobi ,

Now....

Thats imposible :D

We know Madara > Itachi
I wont say Sasuke > Itachi nor <
Lets be fair and say Sasuke == Itachi.

This means that Sasuke < Madara.

Madara is

> AL (debatable)
> Itachi
> All akatsuki Members
> Jiraya

Madara is just so powerful i cant evin imagine at this point....

Naruto cant fight him no matter how powerful he is since Madara's EMS can control Kyuubi..

Madara right now is > everyone..

So how and who the hell is going to defeat this villan ?!

Naruto ? [ EMS > Kyuubi ]

Sasuke ? [ Sasuke = Itachi > Madra ]

AL ? [ You want fries with that ? ]

WHO!?
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With training everything is possible.

At the start of the manga itachi > sasuke hardcore... a few years and sasuke = itachi...

Which is a big feat in a mere 2.6 years. So in time he will become

madara<sasuke.

as everythign will end up

Naruto/sasuke > everyone else.
 
Naruto cant fight him no matter how powerful he is since Madara's EMS can control Kyuubi..
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We don't know how EMS will affect Kyuubi once Naruto learns to fully control its power. It's unlikely EMS will work unless Madara can inhibit Naruto's control. It's one thing to control a bijuu, it's quite another to control a bijuu when someone is in the way already controllling it.
 
vagnard said:
You don't need to be stronger than a villian to beat him.

Most of akatsuki members have been defeated by weaker ninjas than themselves.

It's made in that way so the protagonists must struggle to win.

Besides Madara probably will be defeated by teamwork.
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I think if you add "protecting your precious people via will of fire" I think you summoned up what will happen perfectly.
 
lol. Madara is invincible and immortal ...

4 Strongest Technique ( Tsukuyomi . Amaterasu . Susanoo . and EMS gave him new Technique that we don't know it ) ... No side effects

8 on 1 .. and he just play with them all ..

of course sasuke can't even touch him.
 
Phenomenal said:
lol. Madara is invincible and immortal ...

4 Strongest Technique ( Tsukuyomi . Amaterasu . Susanoo . and EMS gave him new Technique that we don't know it ) ... No side effects

8 on 1 .. and he just play with them all ..

of course sasuke can't even touch him.
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