This is the Kishi's wussie way to please all fandome.

Do you like the Kishi's way?

  • I like the wussie way!

    Votes: 25 32.5%

  • Man up Kishi!

    Votes: 52 67.5%
  • Total voters
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Lezard Valeth

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No real winner. Itachi didn't beat Sasuke and Sasuke didn't beat Itachi.
The usual way for Kishimoto to not hurt any fandome, by implementing handicaps and PnJ ending.

Do you like this wussie way?
 
yeah yeah, who didnt see this thread comming. It wasnt PNJ, the MS has been shown and made obvious all the time to be detrimental to the user. Itachi got his own just deserts for coveting power so much, calling it PNJ or handicaps is a dumb way to summarize a well done, artistic and moving end for a man who sacrificed all his bonds in the pursuit of power which eventually killed him. It ends with him doing the sasuke head tap and thats it. How can that upset you? If it wasnt for the Sasunoo, the same move that killed him, he would have been killed by the lightning. Would that lightning move be a more fitting death? Competely without any emotion or depth at all? No, this was better. It was itachis last ditch technique to stay alive long enough to do something interesting before dying.
 
What's up with you people and this accusation of PNJ or Kishi being a wimp? This ending was perfect. It has been tragic since the very beginning, brother against brother, and now he's closing it in a fitting way.

A fight doesn't always have to have a winner. Nobody won in this fight but it was a good ending anyways. And it wasn't as if somebody could truly win this fight. Itachi's death is bound to have some sort of effect on Sasuke and Sasuke can't die for Itachi to win anyways. And Kishi will explain why Itachi collapsed in the next chapter. Look at the chapter preview. "This battle... their war, comes to an abrupt end... but why?!"

My opinion on this ending.
 
Kishimoto didn't please Itachi's fandom at all because Itachi looked pathetic for the majority of the fight.
The only positive thing Itachi fans can hold on to is that Itachi had the most impressive jutsu.
 
The J-Man said:
It sure seems so, but Sasuke definately didn't beat him.
I'd put Itachi's death on either the white snake venom (Oro) or Susano'o overuse.
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Just because Sasuke didn't stab Itachi and stop his heart doesn't mean he didn't defeat him.

It was due to Sasuke's power that Itachi was forced to use the techniques that ended his life.

Sasuke defeated him, imo.
 
TenshiOni said:
Just because Sasuke didn't stab Itachi and stop his heart doesn't mean he didn't defeat him.

It was due to Sasuke's power that Itachi was forced to use the techniques that ended his life.

Sasuke defeated him, imo.
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I'd wait for the next chapter before jumping to conclusion. The cause of Itachi's "heartattack" is still unknown and it seems as if Kishi will explain next chapter.
 
Is not the wussie way, it was just a fight to the limit and the poke was the culmination of itachi's acknowledgement of sasuke.
It was a perfect ending.

There is no such thing as PNJ, you guys need to stop with that BS. PNJ doesnt stand for, "the manga didnt go the way i wanted".

First people were ready to bitch about sasuke overcoming with a new jutsu, and now people complain because there wasnt a clear winner?.

Or is the issue is about any outcome that doesnt include sasuke losing?. I think...
 
TenshiOni said:
Just because Sasuke didn't stab Itachi and stop his heart doesn't mean he didn't defeat him.

It was due to Sasuke's power that Itachi was forced to use the techniques that ended his life.

Sasuke defeated him, imo.
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Yup. Sasuke outlasted him both were worn out both used their best moves, Itachi bit the bullet while Sasuke is left still standing. Winner Sasuke. A win is a win deal with it folks. :amuse
 
TenshiOni said:
Just because Sasuke didn't stab Itachi and stop his heart doesn't mean he didn't defeat him.
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Not only that, Sasuke was totally helpless and crapping his pants.
You don't defeat someone by crapping your pants.

Plus don't count Orochimaru out of this death yet, next chapter will reveal why Itachi died.
 
I do think that Kishi took the easy way out...there wasnt anny PnJ but I was hoping for something more decisive
 
I can't count this as a Sasuke win. Kishi used an orochomaru-hax. He knew he couldn't put Sasuke at the same lvl as Itachi. We are aruging about who won so Kishi did his job. It wasn't so clean cut that we can say so and so won period. Not only did Sasuke use some of Orochimaru power (jutsu) but he also attacked. Who's to say that if Itachi didn't have to use SusanoO on Orochimaru he would of made it to Sasuke. I think Kishi was in a tough spot and had to accomplish some tough things. He had to keep Sasuke alive, keep Itachi stronger than Sasuke, and weaken the power of the MS. I think he made them meet to early for how much story is behind this confrontation. The ending of it if this is it is a little weak. Would you really call this Sasuke getting his vengance. He also might be trying to keep to the story on the idea that it's not the right path.
 
There was no PNJ, it was something more sinister. It can happen at anytime, and it needs no explanation to work or be implemented. I call it Random Death no Jutsu, RDJ for short. It has been going on since Kimmimaro...
 
Well, he did say he was going to try and please both sides, and so while Itachi was stronger, Sasuke won. After all, were it not for Orochimaru, Itachi would not have had to waste so much time and chakra killing his hydra and could have focused on Sasuke immediately.
 
The J-Man said:
No real winner. Itachi didn't beat Sasuke and Sasuke didn't beat Itachi.
The usual way for Kishimoto to not hurt any fandome, by implementing handicaps and PnJ ending.

Do you like this wussie way?
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it doesnt matter, there was no other way that kishi could of played out the fight w/o pleasing both fandoms.

itach had to die and but itachi had to do himself in, while sasuke had to live and look like he couldnt or shouldnt have.
 
If there is no meaning behind the cryptic smile, message and forehead poke, than itachi's death is kinda tragic tbh :arg sasuke's victory seem lacklustre.
 
The J-Man said:
No real winner. Itachi didn't beat Sasuke and Sasuke didn't beat Itachi.
The usual way for Kishimoto to not hurt any fandome, by implementing handicaps and PnJ ending.

Do you like this wussie way?
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What are you complaining about? The rest of this fight may have been one-sided and lackluster, but come on: this was the perfect conclusion (if it IS concluded).



There are so many good developments that come out of Itachi collapsing...and hardly any bad developments:

1. Sasuke does not overpower Itachi in the end.

2. Itachi does not rip Sasuke's eyes out in the end.

3. Orochimaru makes a showing, quite possibly escapes genjutsu.

4. Sasuke's CS is gone, along with a shit-ton o' snakes. Summons still accessible, though.

5. The whisper from Itachi allows Kishimoto the option of going the good-guy route with Itachi, if he ever wants to develop Itachi that way.

6. The forehead-prod by Itachi. Gesture of brotherhood, and whatnot.

7. Side-affects of CS finally shown off. Oro's slave, indeed.

8. Itachi saved Sasuke from Orochimaru. That's right, I said it. The real brother beat Naruto to it, whether or not the latter inspired the former.

9. The detrimental effects of MS, which have been foreshadowing Itachi's loss, swing the results. It's been implied that the reason that Itachi was on the backpedal the entire fight was because MS was draining him, sight-wise and chakra-wise. This loss, I'm afraid, involved little to no PNJ. Itachi's loss, as a result, also proves that Sasuke was right to not seek the MS to begin with.




Please, explain to me...what about this is "wussy" ?
 
Kasai said:
What are you complaining about? The rest of this fight may have been one-sided and lackluster, but come on: this was the perfect conclusion (if it IS concluded).



There are so many good developments that come out of Itachi collapsing...and hardly any bad developments:

1. Sasuke does not overpower Itachi in the end.

2. Itachi does not rip Sasuke's eyes out in the end.

3. Orochimaru makes a showing, quite possibly escapes genjutsu.

4. Sasuke's CS is gone, along with a shit-ton o' snakes. Summons still accessible, though.

5. The whisper from Itachi allows Kishimoto the option of going the good-guy route with Itachi, if he ever wants to develop Itachi that way.

6. The forehead-prod by Itachi. Gesture of brotherhood, and whatnot.

7. Side-affects of CS finally shown off. Oro's slave, indeed.

8. Itachi saved Sasuke from Orochimaru. That's right, I said it. The real brother beat Naruto to it, whether or not the latter inspired the former.

9. The detrimental effects of MS, which have been foreshadowing Itachi's loss, swing the results. It's been implied that the reason that Itachi was on the backpedal the entire fight was because MS was draining him, sight-wise and chakra-wise. This loss, I'm afraid, involved little to no PNJ. Itachi's loss, as a result, also proves that Sasuke was right to not seek the MS to begin with.




Please, explain to me...what about this is "wussy" ?
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i@Bold
t would be good if kishi explored what you have mentioned above, and give a satisfactory one at that, if not, i didn't expect sasuke to win like this.
 
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