Megathread The Russo-Ukrainian War

WorkingMoogle

Well-Known Member
Imagine if he starts saying that europe isn't even a real continent and that it has historically belonged to russia 😏
Just apply the transitive property.

The USSR used to control parts of Germany. Thus Germany is Russian.

Germany used to occupy France, thus France is Russian.

France has occupied parts of the UK, thus the UK is Russian.

Half the damn world used to be a colony of the UK...

All peoples are being Russian, if you dig deep enough comrade.
 
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Jim

The Virjim
Just apply the transitive property.

The USSR used to control parts of Germany. Thus Germany is Russian.

Germany used to occupy France, thus France is Russian.

France has occupied parts of the UK, thus the UK is Russian.

Half the damn world used to be a colony of the UK...

All peoples are being Russian, if you dig deep enough comrade.
and then on its way to conquest "how would you feel if texas decided it wasn't part of hte US 🤪 "
 

Ruthless Tsuchikage

Well-Known Member
Just apply the transitive property.

The USSR used to control parts of Germany. Thus Germany is Russian.

Germany used to occupy France, thus France is Russian.

France has occupied parts of the UK, thus the UK is Russian.

Half the damn world used to be a colony of the UK...

All peoples are being Russian, if you dig deep enough comrade.
Putin: All your bases are belong to us.
 

NeoTerraKnight

Well-Known Member
Nothing has happened in the battlefield since this comment, that prove that I was wrong. :lmao

The HIMARS continue to cause the Russians some inconvenience but the Russia military said they have destroyed some of them which the Ukrainians deny obviously but who knows.

Ukraine is no closer to winning the war or gain the upper hand against Russia since the HIMARS arrived.

Hell Zelensky recently said that the fight against Russia in the Donbas is hell and calling for the US to send in more HIMARS which goes to show things are not going well for them.


Another comment not aged well.

 

dr_shadow

Moderator
Moderator
Albania, France, and Italy deposited!

Thank you @Le Mâle-Pensant, @CrownedEagle, @Saishin and @blk. :hug

We're now halfway!

OrderCountrySignedDeposited
1Canada2022-07-052022-07-05
2Denmark2022-06-072022-07-05
3Iceland2022-07-052022-07-06
4United Kingdom2022-07-062022-07-06
5Norway2022-06-162022-07-07
6Germany2022-07-082022-07-20
7Netherlands2022-07-122022-07-20
8Estonia2022-07-062022-07-22
9Latvia2022-07-152022-07-22
10Poland2022-07-222022-08-03
11Lithuania2022-07-202022-08-04
12Bulgaria2022-07-182022-08-09
13Luxembourg2022-07-222022-08-09
14Belgium2022-07-212022-08-11
15Albania2022-07-072022-08-11
16France2022-08-052022-08-16
17Italy2022-08-052022-08-17
(18)Romania2022-07-22
(19)Slovenia2022-07-22
(20)North Macedonia2022-07-28
(21)Montenegro2022-08-01
(22)United States2022-08-09
 
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Le Mâle-Pensant

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Albania, France, and Italy deposited!

Thank you @Le Mâle-Pensant, @CrownedEagle, @Saishin and @blk. :hug

We're now halfway!

OrderCountrySignedDeposited
1Canada2022-07-052022-07-05
2Denmark2022-06-072022-07-05
3Iceland2022-07-052022-07-06
4United Kingdom2022-07-062022-07-06
5Norway2022-06-162022-07-07
6Germany2022-07-082022-07-20
7Netherlands2022-07-122022-07-20
8Estonia2022-07-062022-07-22
9Latvia2022-07-152022-07-22
10Poland2022-07-222022-08-03
11Lithuania2022-07-202022-08-04
12Bulgaria2022-07-182022-08-09
13Luxembourg2022-07-222022-08-09
14Belgium2022-07-212022-08-11
15Albania2022-07-072022-08-11
16France2022-08-052022-08-16
17Italy2022-08-052022-08-17
(18)Romania2022-07-22
(19)Slovenia2022-07-22
(18)North Macedonia2022-07-28
(19)Montenegro2022-08-01
(22)United States2022-08-09
The far left vote against and the far right abstained.
 
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dr_shadow

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Moderator
The countries that we're still awaiting signatures from are:

1. Czech Republic
2. Greece
3. Hungary
4. Portugal
5. Slovakia
6. Spain
7. Turkey

Five of them should be a pure formality. We're only worried about Turkey and possibly Hungary, since Erdogan and Orban are buddies of Putin.

The best situation would be that everyone else has signed by the time the Turkish parliament reconvenes after its summer recess. If it's 29-to-1 they'll hopefully feel pressured to also put their name on the last line.
 

dr_shadow

Moderator
Moderator
The countries that we're still awaiting signatures from are:

1. Czech Republic
2. Greece
3. Hungary
4. Portugal
5. Slovakia
6. Spain
7. Turkey

Five of them should be a pure formality. We're only worried about Turkey and possibly Hungary, since Erdogan and Orban are buddies of Putin.

The best situation would be that everyone else has signed by the time the Turkish parliament reconvenes after its summer recess. If it's 29-to-1 they'll hopefully feel pressured to also put their name on the last line.

I see Croatia is missing from the table of signatories btw. I'll fix it when I get home. I can't edit tables on my phone.
 

dr_shadow

Moderator
Moderator
Proves you can't really trust them...

Going by Swedish conditions:

While after the fall of the USSR the Far Left are perhaps not actively "pro-Moscow" (why would they be?), they are still so stuck in their Cold War thinking that they believe only the United States and wider West can be evil, and that therefore any force that opposes "US Imperialism" must be some kind of victims or freedom fighters.

Hence you get the weird unholy alliance between Communists and Islamists. "Hamas is Anti-American so they must be good."

:confusedny

I donno if it's the same in France/Italy, but I would assume so.
 

Ruthless Tsuchikage

Well-Known Member
Are we going to debate the drafts and those
Its not a draft. Its a kidnapping. Drafts are for legitimate governments, not Russian occupation.

Proves they don't want to repeat the repeated Ls of the neocons
Wouldn't legitimizing bringing war to Europe and giving up a whole country to Putin be a much bigger L? Everyone sure seems to think that Chamberlain took a big L when he betrayed Tsjekkoslovakia for a temporary peace Hitler had no interest in honoring.
 

Jim

The Virjim
Typical of information war during a conflict. It’s Russia vs ukraine words so I would take what they say with a grain of salt.
It would be in Ukraine's best interest to report losses to get the support they need.
 

blk

Well-Known Member
Going by Swedish conditions:

While after the fall of the USSR the Far Left are perhaps not actively "pro-Moscow" (why would they be?), they are still so stuck in their Cold War thinking that they believe only the United States and wider West can be evil, and that therefore any force that opposes "US Imperialism" must be some kind of victims or freedom fighters.

Hence you get the weird unholy alliance between Communists and Islamists. "Hamas is Anti-American so they must be good."

:confusedny

I donno if it's the same in France/Italy, but I would assume so.

Basically the same here (except for the islamist thing).

There is a kind of unholy alliance between the far-left and far-right when it comes to do things against NATO, the US and the West in general.


For different reasons: the former comes from the PCI, Partito Comunista Italiano, which was huge back in the day and obviously they hated the US while favored the USSR.
While the latter comes from hard-nationalism & fascist nostalgia, therefore they obviously admire the stereotypical "strong leader" like Putin and dislike the US because - as the global hegemon - they feel it infringes on sovereignty. Also Putin's regime itself could be said to be close to a fascist one, so there's that as well.


Proves they don't want to repeat the repeated Ls of the neocons

Don't know what you mean.

There is no "win" or advantage in not letting fellow European countries (that are already inside the same economic & political union) into a military alliance for mutual defense.


Unless you want to indirectly strengthen Putin's position.



I rather judge them on what they stand for than their vote regarding the adhesion of countries to NATO.
I admit however that vote against is quite a dick move.

Yes and one thing they stand for is keeping Europe divided (for the benefit of who i wonder?).

If there is ONE THING parties and politicians should be judged on is what they vote for.

Much more than their words or hypothetical programs.
 

Vinsmoke Menma

Germa Sniper
Basically the same here.

There is a kind of unholy alliance between the far-left and far-right when it comes to do things against NATO, the US and the West in general.


For different reasons: the former comes from the PCI, Partito Comunista Italiano, which was huge back in the day and obviously they hated the US while favored the USSR.
While the latter comes from hard-nationalism & fascist nostalgia, therefore they obviously admire the stereotypical "strong leader" like Putin and dislike the US because - as the global hegemon - they feel it infringes on sovereignty. Also Putin's regime itself could be said to be close to a fascist one, so there's that as well.




Don't know what you mean.

There is no "win" or advantage in not letting fellow European countries (that are already inside the same economic & political union) into a military alliance for mutual defense.


Unless you want to indirectly strengthen Putin's position.





Yes and one thing they stand for is keeping Europe divided (for the benefit of who i wonder?).

If there is ONE THING parties and politicians should be judged on is what they vote for.

Much more than their words or hypothetical programs.
Many world alliances lead to WW1
14 points and League of Nations lead to WW2
United Nations and NATO....
 

Le Mâle-Pensant

Well-Known Member
Yes and one thing they stand for is keeping Europe divided (for the benefit of who i wonder?).

If there is ONE THING parties and politicians should be judged on is what they vote for.

Much more than their words or hypothetical programs.
Well, judge the far left for their vote then.
 
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