The Bijuu: A mystery still yet unraveled...

Namikaze Minato Flash

Namikaze Minato Flash

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Now, the best description of the Bijuu came straight out of Chiyo's mouth. I forgot the chapters, but she said that the Bijuu were simply large concentrations of chakra. To me, that pretty much explains how it's a possibility that they're infinite entities. But then again, the lowest Bijuu as an entity could probably be supressed to the point of non-existence. But that's besides the point. If the Bijuu were beyond human understanding/comprehension as Chiyo said, then why were they dabbling with them in the first place? I mean, this is supposed to be some extremely dangerous shit, these Bijuu are. Yet, some form of sealment has been created (Shiki Fuujin, Akatsuki statue, method of how Shukaku was sealed within Gaara, ect) in order for the warring countries to gain control of the Bijuu so that they could squash their competiton. However, with Akatsuki planning a full fledge capture of all Bijuu and their containers in order for them to be extracted, one begins to wonder just how do they benefit the organization as a whole? Madara said that in time, all of their goals will be accomplished. Meaning, the surviving Akatsuki will get some sort of benefit from Madara's master plan. Madara will regain his true power. Pein will get his nuke. The other surviving members (Zetsu, Konan, and Kisame) are unknown. Just, what is it about this large concentration of chakra that's power and intelligence is determined by how many tails it has...?
 
the bijuus need a lot more explaining yeah, but it'll happen once the 8-tails and 9-tails get captured and the statue is completed (in like 50+ chapters)

it sucks how weak the 2, 3, and 4-tails seemed though :/
 
well gaara as 1-tails got so much crazy build up, shukaku seemed awesome. we never even saw the 4-tails guy fight for some reason. and the 3-tails got KOd in one hit? 2-tails got easily killed by the weakest akatukis
 
AbnormallyNormal said:
well gaara as 1-tails got so much crazy build up, shukaku seemed awesome. we never even saw the 4-tails guy fight for some reason. and the 3-tails got KOd in one hit? 2-tails got easily killed by the weakest akatukis
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kakuzu weak? :arg

Namikaze Minato Flash said:
^Wasn't it stated somewhere that the Bijuu are more powerful within a container than in their natural form, though?
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yes, that's true
stated by deidara
 
kakuzu didnt use his abilities though.... i think hidan did the fighting, which is really pathetic that a bijuu loses to hidan

and yeah 3-tails was weak cuz it had no container but still, its fucking bijuu

4-tails guy wtf was up with him? we never even saw his fight and he loses to kisame? unless itachi used MS then its maybe tolerable.
 
AbnormallyNormal said:
kakuzu didnt use his abilities though.... i think hidan did the fighting, which is really pathetic that a bijuu loses to hidan

and yeah 3-tails was weak cuz it had no container but still, its fucking bijuu

4-tails guy wtf was up with him? we never even saw his fight and he loses to kisame? unless itachi used MS then its maybe tolerable.
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he did use his abilities :facepalm
 
AbnormallyNormal said:
kakuzu didnt use his abilities though.... i think hidan did the fighting, which is really pathetic that a bijuu loses to hidan

and yeah 3-tails was weak cuz it had no container but still, its fucking bijuu

4-tails guy wtf was up with him? we never even saw his fight and he loses to kisame? unless itachi used MS then its maybe tolerable.
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I think Kukuzu did...?

Guess you're right...

30% Kisame was compared to Naruto in KN form by Neji. I can't imagine what level he's at when he's at full power. He wasn't said to have the greatest chakra capacity in Akatsuki for nothin'...

page not found :sun
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This should work then...

Satetsu Kaihou

*last try*
 
Fuujin said:
:lmao oh wow

Are you guys seriously suggesting Naruto is more powerful than the fully fledged Kyuubi?
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fanfiction boy, it's just been said in the manga

i suggest you go read that instead of those gb fanfiction stories where gai pwns all at 300km/minute :facepalm
 
Hayate Gunryo said:
fanfiction boy, it's just been said in the manga

i suggest you go read that instead of those gb fanfiction stories where gai pwns all at 300km/minute :facepalm
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Mmmm I love the smell of ad hominem in the morning. I don't see what me being part of GB has to do with this.

Also I suggest you pay closer attention to what's said in the manga. It was said Naruto is more powerful using his own strength than relying on Kyuubi. That does not mean he's more powerful than the beast itself.
 
Fuujin said:
:lmao oh wow

Are you guys seriously suggesting Naruto is more powerful than the fully fledged Kyuubi?
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The Kyuubi has infinite chakra, so no, Naruto is not stronger. However, a Jinchuuriki can become stronger than the Bijuu in its natural form as long as he/she has the knowledge to control its strength according to Deidara. Hayate could probably provide the actual link to that chapter/page...

here

Had to add this epic thread. Some useful information as well...
 
Fuujin said:
Mmmm I love the smell of ad hominem in the morning. I don't see what me being part of GB has to do with this.

Also I suggest you pay closer attention to what's said in the manga. It was said Naruto is more powerful using his own strength than relying on Kyuubi. That does not mean he's more powerful than the beast itself.
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of what? :omg

i suggest you read the manga
 
Namikaze Minato Flash said:
The Kyuubi has infinite chakra, so no, Naruto is not stronger. However, a Jinchuuriki can become stronger than the Bijuu in its natural form as long as he/she has the knowledge to control its strength according to Deidara. Hayate could probably provide the actual link to that chapter/page...

here

Had to add this epic thread. Some useful information as well...
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Epic thread IS epic.

However the jinchuuriki>bijuu rule only works for really stupid bijuu. Look at shukaku, he was able to speak and did huge amounts of damage that Gaara couldn't even dream of. It was even said that the longer Gaara was KOed the more powerful it became. To be quite honest the only bijuu I see as being weaker than it's jinchuuriki is the sanbi. Also the nibi Kakuzu was fighting was a henge'd jinchuuriki, not the full thing.

@Hayate:
 
Bijuu are much more powerful in nature.

They only referred Jinjuuriki as stronger because their power can be better focused.

And the power of a Bijuu isnt ranked by their tales.

In fact the 3tails is the weakest due to lack of intelligence.

Akatsuki did only beat one raw Bijuu and that was 3tails. And it was only beaten because of these shit Daidara explosions because they are only good against such slow or big enemies.


Fuujin said:
However the jinchuuriki>bijuu rule only works for really stupid bijuu. Look at shukaku, he was able to speak and did huge amounts of damage that Gaara couldn't even dream of.
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I would rep you because of perfect logic...if i could....maybe later then.
 
Fuujin said:
Epic thread IS epic.

However the jinchuuriki>bijuu rule only works for really stupid bijuu. Look at shukaku, he was able to speak and did huge amounts of damage that Gaara couldn't even dream of. It was even said that the longer Gaara was KOed the more powerful it became. To be quite honest the only bijuu I see as being weaker than it's jinchuuriki is the sanbi. Also the nibi Kakuzu was fighting was a henge'd jinchuuriki, not the full thing.

@Hayate:
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One Manga

I'll concede to yours and Kyuubi no Youko's point...
 
that thread you posted was epic. Dryoness deserved every +rep for that one.

As for where Kishimoto goes with the Bijuu is anyone's guess. But I hope it gets more interesting. Fanfic on my part but I want to see Kyuubi be freed.
 
Namikaze Minato Flash said:
Now, the best description of the Bijuu came straight out of Chiyo's mouth. I forgot the chapters, but she said that the Bijuu were simply large concentrations of chakra. To me, that pretty much explains how it's a possibility that they're infinite entities. But then again, the lowest Bijuu as an entity could probably be supressed to the point of non-existence. But that's besides the point. If the Bijuu were beyond human understanding/comprehension as Chiyo said, then why were they dabbling with them in the first place? I mean, this is supposed to be some extremely dangerous shit, these Bijuu are. Yet, some form of sealment has been created (Shiki Fuujin, Akatsuki statue, method of how Shukaku was sealed within Gaara, ect) in order for the warring countries to gain control of the Bijuu so that they could squash their competiton.
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It is the fact that they are so dangerous thta methos to seal them have been invented. You can't have them running around the countryside all the time and let them attack you at will, after all. Also, if you are'nt going to seal them some other country will, and that mig pose problems because said country might want to use them.

And they are very, very useful if you can get control of them.

However, with Akatsuki planning a full fledge capture of all Bijuu and their containers in order for them to be extracted, one begins to wonder just how do they benefit the organization as a whole? Madara said that in time, all of their goals will be accomplished. Meaning, the surviving Akatsuki will get some sort of benefit from Madara's master plan. Madara will regain his true power. Pein will get his nuke. The other surviving members (Zetsu, Konan, and Kisame) are unknown. Just, what is it about this large concentration of chakra that's power and intelligence is determined by how many tails it has...?
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I don't think he was talking about the other Akatsuki members. Pain promised that to Hidan, but I think Madara was just talking bout Akatsuki the Organizations goals. His goals and Pains' goals, in other words. Which fits in nicely with my feeling that these two really do have similar intentions and are'nt just using each other, like everyone else around here thinks.

Intelligence is'nt determined by how many Tails it had, since the One-Tailed Shukaku seemed more intelligent than the Three-Tails which was just a rampaging monster. Power migt be a different story, though.

Shukaku- according to Gaara- used to be a human priest of the Sand Village whose soul was sealed away. So, it's possible that all of the Bijuu were once ordinary humans, who became evil spirits that evolved into powerful Demons.
 
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