Sai: just where does he lie on the powerscale?

Tobirama

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Guys, think with me a second;


I wanna talk about Sai. The guy who has seemingly dropped off the edge of the world. Just how strong is he?


We know that he was handpicked by Danzou as part of Team Kakashi. He is a member of ANBU Root, a splinter faction who hold some authority in the shinobi world.

- Danzou said he is strongest of his age group.
- Danzou could have picked anyone from Root but chose Sai. Root is strong enough to continue to exist despite their goals, so this puts Sai high up already on the food chain.
- Sai beats a Jinchuuriki, a genius and Chouji by himself.
- He is a master of sneaking, as shown by his infiltration of Oro's layer
- His ink techs allow him to do things no one else can e.g. send covert messages, a search team of rats, create a bird to fly, or spam a field with beasts. All of this done in less than a second.
- During Sasuke vs Team Konoha, he moved as fast as Sasuke and was able to block a sword strike intended for Naruto. This seems to be glossed over because it was the chapter of the return of 'OMG SASKAYKUUN KAWAAAAAI!'.
- Kabuto the genius Tsunade-level medic, who get the better of Kakashi and Tsunade, who is capable of casting genjutsus affecting thousands of people simultaneously. Sai was able to beat him to allow Yamato to tie him up.
- Kakashi says: 'what a guy' and then proceeds to jerk his abilities off when they face off in SAsuke's hospital room.

From all this we can gather that he is greater in skill than Kabuto, who is greater than Kakashi himself. Also his little interaction was able to show me that he was faster than Sasuke in that he was able to see what was about to happen, move and react to Sasuke's attack.


If I were to rank him in the Konoha Genin 12 list, I'd say he is second, just above Rock and way below Neji.
 
I think he's pretty under rated.

From what I have seen he's stronger than an average jounin (Yamato) but not high level jounin yet, the likes of Kakashi can handle him.

I think he is a better shinobi than base Naruto (w/o Kyuubi) and base Sasuke (w/o CS/Oro).
 
Even though I am not a big fan of his character!! However! I like his art justus!! I would rank him as a Jounin!
 
From all this we can gather that he is greater in skill than Kabuto, who is greater than Kakashi himself. Also his little interaction was able to show me that he was faster than Sasuke in that he was able to see what was about to happen, move and react to Sasuke's attack.

:facepalm
You went a lil too far there.

You could have just said he is not as bad as people made him seem. better than kakashi who is next in line for the position of hokage?

just 2 things.
-He attacked kabuto from behind when he was off guard(considering that sai betrayed them).
-Sasuke wasnt even serious attacking them, and are you forgetting the part when sai attacks sasuke from behind YET he gets owned?.
I dont think he is faster than him.

Altough he is definetely better than the likes of chouji and kiba. He is below kakashi and yamato.
 
I'd say he and Naruto in base skills are around the same level. He couldn't take on the likes of Yamato or Kakashi, but certainly the other rookies, and some of the older chuunins in the village.
 
- Sai beats a Jinchuuriki, a genius and Chouji by himself.
never happened, he sent some tigers wich were owned by chouji and shika

- Kabuto the genius Tsunade-level medic, who get the better of Kakashi and Tsunade, who is capable of casting genjutsus affecting thousands of people simultaneously. Sai was able to beat him to allow Yamato to tie him up.
never happened, got him by surprise, he only grabbed him


If I were to rank him in the Konoha Genin 12 list, I'd say he is second, just above Rock and way below Neji.

he's very strong but but lee and neji are way stronger
 
i believe he's 3rd in power behind Naruto and sasuke, i think he has more to show then what he's shown so far
 
As Sai has prooved, being powerful and strong is not the be all end up of a talented ninja. Sai is great.
 
- Sai beats a Jinchuuriki, a genius and Chouji by himself.
dude, what is this supposed to mean?
I would say he's pretty strong. Some sort of jounin. It's bad luck that they only face far stronger enemies right now. In part I he would've been of greater use.
 
If we are talking about rankings like this:

S-class
ANBU-level
Jounin
Chunin
Genin


Then Sai is probably around the Jounin - ANBU-level...

well below Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Kage-level nin, and Akatsuki
well above people like Hinata, Kiba, Tenten, and Chouji
and around the level of Kabuto, Sakura, Shikamaru, and Neiji

He probably couldn't take an Akatsuki by himself, depending on the Akatsuki
 
So difficult to rate straight up fighting ability with a character like Sai as we never see him in a very offensive encounter , but at the end of the day considering his position in konoha and the abilities he is most likely above several other (naruto,sakura,sasuke and other chunin) in tracking and stealth , thus is why he was speciallly picked for the mission . In terms of raw power that many of the main characters possess he does not really compare .
 
Yeah, I agree.

Right now the order of strenght of the Konoha 12 + Sai is:

- Sasuke
- Naruto
- Sai
- Sakura
- The rest

basically what I say right now... when he first came he was ahead of Naruto, after the training arc Naruto is a bit smarter in using his clones, so he probably jumped ahead of him...
 
Lol Kabuto being greater then Kakashi, thats funny. They were around equal in part 1 but in part 2, Kakashi is more then likely surpassed Kabuto. Kabuto will only be getting stronger because he has Oro's DNA.
 
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