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Rasa vs Tsunade

Vegito

Well-Known Member
Rasa was off paneled by Orochimaru with no Edos and didn't imply to need Yamata
How do we know Rasa fought Orochimaru? For all we know he could of backstabbed him since Rasa was under the false security that Orochimaru was his ally.
 

Shazam

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How do we know Rasa fought Orochimaru? For all we know he could of backstabbed him since Rasa was under the false security that Orochimaru was his ally.

Possible. But nonetheless he killed him. And Rasa wasn't able to stop him. We know Orochimaru tried to jump Itachi and Itachi could stop him from doing anything. Afterwards Orochimaru said he was stronger. In this case Orochimaru was successful, it'd assume Orochimaru under the same premise would say he's stronger than Rasa
 

SakuraLover16

Sakura + Sasuke = Sarada
It’s not so easy to assassinate Kage-level ninja. Even Zabuza, one of the greatest assassins in the manga, failed to assassinate the Mizukage despite her being one of the weaker Kage. If Orochimaru is able to near effortlessly assassinate Kage-level ninja without them being able to mount a defense, he’s a lot stronger than we thought, and his basic move-set is a lot more dangerous than he’s given credit for.
I thought Zabuza tried to kill Yagura? From the manga if I'm not mistaken it seemed like Mei was fairly new.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
Rasa wins.

According to manga, i.e. statement made by Kakashi, to beat a long-range fighter you need to have either Shikamaru-level IQ or some long-range attack. Tsunade lacks both, and she isn't quick enough to blitz here either.
 

Shazam

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Tsunade literally outperformed Gaara in combat against Madara (not just support), and Gaara made quick work of his father...

Her hype as a Sannin also puts her far out of his league. Rasa was literally off-paneled by Orochimaru, who then assassinated the strongest of the Five Kage at the time (Hiruzen). Yet, it was emphasized that "only a Sannin can defeat a Sannin," suggesting that not only were the Sannin above Hiruzen, they were above the rest of the Five Kage by extension as well.

Reading comprehension tells us Tsunade would prevail, and do so without too many issues. This is not a close fight; Tsunade steamrolls him.
 

J★J♥

Vento Aureo
Possible. But nonetheless he killed him. And Rasa wasn't able to stop him. We know Orochimaru tried to jump Itachi and Itachi could stop him from doing anything. Afterwards Orochimaru said he was stronger. In this case Orochimaru was successful, it'd assume Orochimaru under the same premise would say he's stronger than Rasa
Orochimaru needed Itachi alive and he needed Rasa dead. See how it is different ?
 

FlamingRain

Living Legend
Moderator
Rasa wins.

According to manga, i.e. statement made by Kakashi, to beat a long-range fighter you need to have either Shikamaru-level IQ or some long-range attack. Tsunade lacks both, and she isn't quick enough to blitz here either.

Shikamaru is merely an example of someone Naruto already knows is very smart. Kakashi doesn't mean you actually have to be as smart as Shikamaru to force a long-range enemy into a close-range battle.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
Shikamaru is merely an example of someone Naruto already knows is very smart. Kakashi doesn't mean you actually have to be as smart as Shikamaru to force a long-range enemy into a close-range battle.
Yeah, he meant someone extraordinarily smart essentially.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
If you asked someone in Narutoverse they'd say that much about Tsunade too.
Maybe on Narutoforums, but definitely not Naruverse lol. I don't think she would even register in a debate about general intelligence there. That domain contains only few Konoha shinobi, like Naras, Itachi and Kakashi - perhaps also Sasuke, but that's about it.
 

FlamingRain

Living Legend
Moderator
Maybe on Narutoforums, but definitely not Naruverse lol. I don't think she would even register in a debate about general intelligence there. That domain contains only few Konoha shinobi, like Naras, Itachi and Kakashi - perhaps also Sasuke, but that's about it.

No, in Narutoverse. It's one of the reasons she was considered most suited to be Hokage and you don't become the foremost medical specialist in the world otherwise.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
No, in Narutoverse. It's one of the reasons she was considered most suited to be Hokage and you don't become the foremost medical specialist in the world otherwise.
All this would mean, if you were right, is that she is as intelligent as 6/yo Itachi who was stated to be Hokage-level in terms of his IQ.

So still far below the actual geniuses.
 

FlamingRain

Living Legend
Moderator
All this would mean, if you were right, is that she is as intelligent as 6/yo Itachi who was stated to be Hokage-level in terms of his IQ.

So still far below the actual geniuses.

Itachi is a genius, and geniuses are born that way. You can see that in terms of IQ earlier than 7. The advantage of growing up is having more knowledge to work with.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
Itachi is a genius, and geniuses are born that way. You can see that in terms of IQ earlier than 7. The advantage of growing up is having more knowledge to work with.
Yeah, there are geniuses and then there are just generally capable adults like Tsunade. You need the former to overcome the long distance vs short distance match-up disadvantage though.

I guess you can make an argument that Tsunade was the smartest electable Konoha shinobi if there's actually a statement that she was elected because of her intellect though. But there weren't many other people to choose from, so at best I think she ends up above Jman in intellect.
 

SakuraLover16

Sakura + Sasuke = Sarada
Maybe on Narutoforums, but definitely not Naruverse lol. I don't think she would even register in a debate about general intelligence there. That domain contains only few Konoha shinobi, like Naras, Itachi and Kakashi - perhaps also Sasuke, but that's about it.
Umm I sure in the Naruto verse Tsunade is known far and wide to be highly intelligent...even the creator acknowledged her intelligence giving her a 5. She can basically turn a 13 to 14 year old into a doctor in merely 2 and a half years.
 

Lyren

Strongest Fisherman
:zaheerimagine thinking Tsunade loses to someone who got one paneled by Gaara

Tsunade easily makes short work of him lol. Tsunade>Gaara>>>Rasa
 

Francyst

Sakura + Sasuke = Sharinglasses
No, in Narutoverse. It's one of the reasons she was considered most suited to be Hokage and you don't become the foremost medical specialist in the world otherwise.
Tsunade wasn't even considered for the seat, and only accepted her after Jiraiya brought her up because Jiraiya clearly didn't take the position seriously.
 

t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
Umm I sure in the Naruto verse Tsunade is known far and wide to be highly intelligent...even the creator acknowledged her intelligence giving her a 5. She can basically turn a 13 to 14 year old into a doctor in merely 2 and a half years.
She's above average in terms of intelligence, sure, but "Shikamaru"-level brain is above even the above averages.
 

SakuraLover16

Sakura + Sasuke = Sarada
Tsunade wasn't even considered for the seat, and only accepted her after Jiraiya brought her up because Jiraiya clearly didn't take the position seriously.
No they agreed to him suggesting her because she was just as great an option as he was. They didn't consider her at first because she hadn't been seen in over 20 years.
 
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