Puting condom dispensers in schools.

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PerveeSage

The guy in the bush
According to this thread in the NF, 1 in four teen girls has an std.

It has been brought up before that, in order to promote safer sex practices, high schools should provide condom dispensers in high school bathrooms, so teens have easy acess to measures which could prevent stds and young pregnancies.

However, because of school policies, these dispensers have not been implemented at all because school officials say installing dispensers promotes sexual activity, which schools can not do.

My personal opinion, i believe schools can still provide safe sex alternatives while still promoting abstinance. When i was in high school, we had a required health class, which taught things about cpr, some diseases, medicines etc. etc. Why not also provide information to scare high schoolers away from sexual activity? Give em study material outlining the effects of STDs, and the problems that come with early pregnancies. If you were given pictures of a penis or vagina riddled with diseased warts and whatnot, dont you think you might be convinced to think twice before you get down with your dirty bits?

And about dispensers promoting sexual activity, i believe thats a small price to pay for preventing dangers. Any signal we send by providing dispensers would be insignificant when compared to media and many more signals we send to teens about sex.

Should condom dispensers be put in high schools or not? And what kind of measures do you think high schools should take to promote healthy activity?
 
In boot camp, they show you pictures of genital herpes and other STDs to try to scare you from fucking hookers and whatnot. It doesn't work.
 
Abstinence only education doesn't work. They're gonna do it so why just give them the condoms and let it be done. There are 3 deeply imprinted imperatives in humans: eating, shitting and fucking. People just haven't quite understood the third part.
 
Blame Herpes, before that was included in the statistics the STD rates were about 1 in 25 women.

I'm all for Condom dispensers being in schools, but if you think a glorified skin rash is the reason than you're kind of arguing the wrong reasons for it.
 
I completely detest this idea, its just going to in courage kids that sex is alright, and its really not a big deal, and It will def. bring more high school slurs into this world.
 
Abstinence is stupid.

Look at Somalia. Condoms are illegal in an attempt to fight sex (yes they're fighting sex there). Guess which country is in the "top-5" list for teenage pregnanciens? :p

Dj. said:
I completely detest this idea, its just going to in courage kids that sex is alright, and its really not a big deal, and It will def. bring more high school slurs into this world.
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1: Sex IS alright. Human existance is based on sex. If you disagree, please go jump into a volcano or something and don't bash an activity that thousands of generations has practiced in order to bring YOU (eww) into this world.

2: Sex ISN'T a big deal. It's plug A into slot B. Nothing more.
 
unlinkedthunder said:
Condoms would only encourage more sex further increasing the spread of STD's.
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Dj. said:
I completely detest this idea, its just going to in courage kids that sex is alright, and its really not a big deal, and It will def. bring more high school slurs into this world.
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Yes, because kids aren't already having sex. They aren't already getting STD's, there are no teenage pregnancies... and adding condoms definitely means that they will suddenly have wild sex orgies.

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Condom machines in schools encourages sex about as much as tampon machines encourages menstruation.

Teenagers are having sex with or without condom dispensers (without, being the major problem), so you might as well provide the easy means for them to be safe. It's not like you're providing sex toys and dildos and 'how to' manuals. You're just giving a safety net to a bunch of kids who would go tight-rope walking anyway.


Not suddenly but slowly over time...
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Slippery slope fallacies do my head in at the best of times, but this one's just... ugh. Do you honestly believe that teenagers will start having wild orgies just because there are little rubber balloons in the bathroom? You know perfectly well that those things will be used more regularly to inflate with water and throw at the teachers than for sex.

And I don't know about you, but I had access to condoms when I was at school and I never got invited to a single orgy. Not even once. Contraception isn't what is causing teenagers to have sex. Hormones, on the other hand...
 
Putting condom dispensers in schools? Hell no. It encourages sex. What doesn't encourage sex is having condoms available by other means, like having them in stores... where teens can buy them. Thats a much better option.
 
Amaretti said:
Condom machines in schools encourages sex about as much as tampon machines encourages menstruation.

Teenagers are having sex with or without condom dispensers (without, being the major problem), so you might as well provide the easy means for them to be safe. It's not like you're providing sex toys and dildos and 'how to' manuals. You're just giving a safety net to a bunch of kids who would go tight-rope walking anyway.




Slippery slope fallacies do my head in at the best of times, but this one's just... ugh. Do you honestly believe that teenagers will start having wild orgies just because there are little rubber balloons in the bathroom? You know perfectly well that those things will be used more regularly to inflate with water and throw at the teachers than for sex.

And I don't know about you, but I had access to condoms when I was at school and I never got invited to a single orgy. Not even once. Contraception isn't what is causing teenagers to have sex. Hormones, on the other hand...
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It wasn't a serious response...

How more so is it that those teenagers who don't adhere to a foolproof method of contraception would bother following and submit to a method that isn't completely infallible despite the added pleasure. When even more pleasure is available without following these precautions.

Even so giving kids condoms opens the possibility for temptation and makes it seem ok to have sex despite the risks.
 
I don't think they should put them in schools, because I don't think most of the sex is actually going on in the school itself.
 
Trov said:
Putting condom dispensers in schools? Hell no. It encourages sex. What doesn't encourage sex is having condoms available by other means, like having them in stores... where teens can buy them. Thats a much better option.
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I disagree. i think just having condoms in stores, or places that are more public than a high school bathroom, is a much more embarrasing way of getting kids to use condoms.

By going to, say, a supermarket personals isle, everyone in the store is gonna see you walkin around with a box of french letters, then you have to stand in the checkout line and put it on the table for all to see, then you have to face the checkout stand person whos prolly gonna give you shit about being underage.

That's a lot of pressure for an already angsty teen, why not make a teen-like decision and forget the condom, along with all the pressure that goes with it?

On the other hand, if a teen were to choose to get down and dirty, he/she would be a lot less pressured to make a safe choice, by going to a school bathroom where you can wait until nobody is there.
 
PerveeSage said:
I disagree. i think just having condoms in stores, or places that are more public than a high school bathroom, is a much more embarrasing way of getting kids to use condoms.

By going to, say, a supermarket personals isle, everyone in the store is gonna see you walkin around with a box of french letters, then you have to stand in the checkout line and put it on the table for all to see, then you have to face the checkout stand person whos prolly gonna give you shit about being underage.

That's a lot of pressure for an already angsty teen, why not make a teen-like decision and forget the condom, along with all the pressure that goes with it?

On the other hand, if a teen were to choose to get down and dirty, he/she would be a lot less pressured to make a safe choice, by going to a school bathroom where you can wait until nobody is there.
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Oh, c'mon, that wouldn't work, every high scool bathroom usually has punkass kids hanging out in there smoking or getting high. Plus they'd probably just trash the condom dispensers and use all the condoms as waterballoons, just like how there's never toilet paper because punkass kids keep wetting them and tossing 'em up at the ceiling.
 
Hmmm...

It's a good idea, but not in the school :amuse

Putting condoms in schools (like everyone else said) does encourage sex, but condom dispensers in schools aren't the answer...

We have to trust that they'll make the right desision :amuse

and if they did have sex. Than Oh well. It was their desision, and nobody elses... So it's their problem. :grin
 
kusogitsune said:
Oh, c'mon, that wouldn't work, every high scool bathroom usually has punkass kids hanging out in there smoking or getting high. Plus they'd probably just trash the condom dispensers and use all the condoms as waterballoons, just like how there's never toilet paper because punkass kids keep wetting them and tossing 'em up at the ceiling.
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Hmm... while it was never that way in my high school, i could see that happening easily. A solution would be to only put the dispenser in the front office building but still allow students to use it. Any disturbences would be noticed by nearby staff, who would probably be sharing the restroom.

*Black_Emerald* said:
Hmmm...

It's a good idea, but not in the school :amuse

Putting condoms in schools (like everyone else said) does encourage sex, but condom dispensers in schools aren't the answer...

We have to trust that they'll make the right desision :amuse

and if they did have sex. Than Oh well. It was their desision, and nobody elses... So it's their problem. :grin
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We are trusting teens to make the right decision but its not working. And unfortunately, its not just their problem, when an infected partner decides to have sex with someone else, that could be you or me.
 
High-schoolers need condoms at school why? I can understand sex-ed classes talking about using condoms and handing out condoms, but do dispensers really need to be in schools? High-schoolers drive enough to end up at gas stations frequently. What do gas stations have ample variety of?
 
I don't give a crap about random people I don't know (and even people I would know) having STDs. If you don't want to get STDs, just buy the condoms yourself.
 
My school would definitely benefit from that. I can hardly walk ten feet without slipping in mung.
 
This just sounds stupid. I'm all for safe sex and that whole bag. I really don't give a crap what the hell these kids do with each other. But condoms are so readily available in U.S. society that this is just unnecessary and flaunting sex in the faces of youth. Not to mention it sounds like a waste of taxpayer money. The kids are embarrassed buying them at stores? They need to grow up and get over it. Back when I was in middle/high school there were never any issues getting protection.
 
Its a very bad idea to put them in schools....Parents should just take more reponsibility and put more effort in teaching there kids, enabling them to make wise decisions. Kids at very young ages are obtaining guns, liquor and drugs, getting a condom would be much easier that any of those items. There is no certainty that kids would even you use the condoms, but its very likely that them being available will send a message that its ok for them to be having sex.....
 
PerveeSage said:
Hmm... while it was never that way in my high school, i could see that happening easily. A solution would be to only put the dispenser in the front office building but still allow students to use it. Any disturbences would be noticed by nearby staff, who would probably be sharing the restroom.



We are trusting teens to make the right decision but its not working. And unfortunately, its not just their problem, when an infected partner decides to have sex with someone else, that could be you or me.
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Yes, but i don't believe this would happen in a school.

The idea is very intrigueing and I agree with most of it's advantages, but i don't think schools should go out of their way to supply the students with condoms just so they have safe sex, when they have to deal with other things like taxes, and other such things :amuse
 
While I think that having condoms more readily available is a good idea, I do not think that dispensers would be the best way to go about giving them out.

There'd be too many teenagers poking small holes in them and putting them back for the lulz.

..That and condom water balloons.

The whole "ohnoes condoms being available will cause random orgies everywhere, spreading more STDS!" is almost as naive as believing that preaching abstinence only, while condemning safe sex/condoms will somehow stop the HIV/AIDS epidemic in Africa.
 
Where do you guys honestly think condom dispensers should be besides a school? A school is the place where most teenagers go in their lifetime and is only 2nd to a home when it comes to how many times they go. And we are talking about the young people here so its only wise to put condom dispensers in the 2nd most visited place in your lifetime.
 
There is ain't a force in the 'verse that can stop teens from knocking boots if they want to. Might as well use protection, and the protection you can get is the protection you use. If you don't have protection you can't use it. Thats the way shit works.

tl;dr: kids need rubbers, these machines would provide them.
 
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