[PROOF] Itachi was poisoned by the White Snake

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Despite all of that though, i have a different take on the end of this chapter. We know for a FACT that there is a grave price for cutting the white snake. Itachi decimated an 8 headed version of it.


Sasuke didnt know he was poisoned until Orochimaru told him.





Itachi has just been poisoned without realizing it.



If you look at Itachi's demeanor, he is clearly banking on not only having the chakra to pull of all 3 jutsus, but even having enough chakra to slowly savor the moment of plucking his brothers eyes out, he's in no rush.





Before this panel Itachi was shown suffering from the damage caused by using the Susano'o, and Zetsu already acknowledged that.

But right after that the poison starts kicking in.

I think he would have a pretty good hang on his chakra capacity, no shinobi has ever used chakra to death without knowing they were doing so.

When a shinobi has no chakra left, his demeanor is completely different. Notice Sasuke, or Kakashi when using sharingan excessively. Itachi never had this kind of behavior throughout the entire fight. He looked sick at times, but never depleted.

I look to Oro's poison because of how he collapsed. If he collapsed, then crawled to Sasuke, then passed out, then i'd attribute it to chakra depletion.

That's not what happened. He casually walked over to Sasuke with a smile on his face, while using his most powerful jutsu to repel massive explosives. Then, out of nowhere, collapse. Just like Sasuke in Oro'd lair. He was all smug, confident, seemingly healthy, then all of a sudden, in an instant, he collapses.


Sasuke wasn't poisoned because he has developed an immunity to the white snake's poison.


Combine these with the snake slithering away, i'm willing to bet that we learn he was poisoned for cutting Orochimaru's Yamata No Orochi.
 
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This is Prooved. Orochimaru killed Itachi, Sasuke lost cause he didn't get his revenge (he didn't kill Itachi), Itachi lost cause he died and didn't get Sasuke's eyes and Orochimaru wins cause he lives on to antagonize yet again.
 
It does say 'numbing' poison, and i haven't got the raw, so I don't know if it meant to be a deadly poison or not.

Woofie said:
So why isn't Sasuke also poisoned?

Also, look up the word 'proof', please.
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Maybe he was, except Itachi was the closest to death?
 
When Itachi was shown bleeding, Zetsu immediatly said Susano came with a great risk, just as Amaterasu damaged Itachi, and Tsukuyomi damaged Itachi, Susano did the same except with a greater damage. I think the white snake represented Orochimaru coming back in the future.
 
That is a possibility, but there is no exact proof of it. I wonder if the poison could get through Susano-o. If it could, then why isn't Sasuke also poisoned?

Hopefully, Itachi's death will be fully explained in the next chapter.
 
Gameb0y said:
When Itachi was shown bleeding, Zetsu immediatly said Susano came with a great risk, just as Amaterasu damaged Itachi, and Tsukuyomi damaged Itachi, Susano did the same except with a greater damage. I think the white snake represented Orochimaru coming back in the future.
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As I said before, Itachi already did show damage for the Susanoo technique, and Zetsu acknowledged that. But the scene where he holds his heart was unprecedented. The damage all of a sudden looks life-threatening.
 
Yamata no Orochi said:
As I said before, Itachi already did show damage for the Susanoo technique, and Zetsu acknowledged that. But the scene where he holds his heart was unprecedented. The damage all of a sudden looks life-threatening.
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Okay then explain why Sasuke isnt affected by the poison? Its supposed to spread through the air, as OP said, so why did only Itachi get affected by it, hm? :notrust
 
There's no proof. I think it's more that Itachi didn't take Orochimaru coming out into his calculations, or he just thought that he could keep going. It's not stupid of Itachi to push himself to his limit and past it, it's quite common in this manga.
 
Gameb0y said:
Okay then explain why Sasuke isnt affected by the poison? Its supposed to spread through the air, as OP said, so why did only Itachi get affected by it, hm? :notrust
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That's what the OP thinks. I personally believe the hydra itself was poisonous, and there is some sort of connection between the susanoo and Itachi's life force.
 
Yamata no Orochi said:
That's what the OP thinks. I personally believe the hydra itself was poisonous, and there is some sort of connection between the susanoo and Itachi's life force.
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If that was the case, then shouldn't we see the effects on Susanoo first and then Itachi? Rather, we saw Itachi have troubles and Susanoo correspondingly had troubles.
 
Woofie said:
So why isn't Sasuke also poisoned?
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Most likely because Sasuke possesses the White Snake abilities. Afterall, I don't think I've ever heard of a Rattle Snake poisoning another Rattle Snake.

Sean A. said:
That is a possibility, but there is no exact proof of it. I wonder if the poison could get through Susano-o. If it could, then why isn't Sasuke also poisoned?

Hopefully, Itachi's death will be fully explained in the next chapter.
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Susanoo probably is the reason Itachi died, I think it's 50/50 at this point, possibly even a combination of both. But fumes could get passed a shield since the shield likely only deflects what hits it.

Hexa said:
If that was the case, then shouldn't we see the effects on Susanoo first and then Itachi? Rather, we saw Itachi have troubles and Susanoo correspondingly had troubles.
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It's debatable if Susanoo itself is physical or ethereal.
 
Hexa said:
If that was the case, then shouldn't we see the effects on Susanoo first and then Itachi? Rather, we saw Itachi have troubles and Susanoo correspondingly had troubles.
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I believe both of them began showing signs of extreme fatigue simultaneously. And if Itachi and Susanoo's life forces are connected, would it matter too much who exactly started feeling the unknown side-effects? I don't know.

But I stand by what I said before: I don't believe Itachi collapsed from mere exhaustion.
 
Gameb0y said:
Okay then explain why Sasuke isnt affected by the poison? Its supposed to spread through the air, as OP said, so why did only Itachi get affected by it, hm? :notrust
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well sasuke was living with these things inside of him for months
:notrust

but none the less its just a theory
 
Yamata no Orochi said:
I believe both of them began showing signs of extreme fatigue simultaneously. And if Itachi and Susanoo's life forces are connected, would it matter too much who exactly started feeling the unknown side-effects? I don't know.
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They didn't, though. You get a page where Itachi is showing the effects, and then after you see Susanoo showing the effects. Just from the layout, it's not really possible for it to have been concurrent.

But I stand by what I said before: I don't believe Itachi collapsed from mere exhaustion.
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That might be true, but I really think "poisoned from Susanoo bottling Orochimaru (well, 99%)" is out.
 
I like the idea. I think there are many of us who believe that Itachi didn 't do himself in, however your "proof" is circumstancial and can be interpreted in many ways.
 
Nice theory.

As to why Sasuke isn't poisoned, its because he possessed the White snakes regenerative powers for the vast majority of the fight, perhaps.
 
My theory is that orochimaru/white snake did not poison the air , but it poisoned/infected the susanoo jutsu because he sucked it in.... the susanoo immediatly acted eraticly after absorbing oro.... and that in turn seemed to damage itachi who was not expecting it too happen...Its his jutsu , he should know the effects it has on his body..... him saying he is going to take his time getting the eyes to savour it seems proof of this not being a normal side effect of susanoo.

this is enforced by the very first page of the new chapter..... first you see the snake... than u see zetsu saying "what is UP with itachi's jutsu?" then u see the effects too itachi and susanoo acting eraticly.
 
Hexa said:
They didn't, though. You get a page where Itachi is showing the effects, and then after you see Susanoo showing the effects. Just from the layout, it's not really possible for it to have been concurrent.

That might be true, but I really think "poisoned from Susanoo bottling Orochimaru (well, 99%)" is out.
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You never know I suppose. It's the only plausible thing I can think of right now.
 
Sasuke might be immune to it because the snake lived in his body. Orochimaru in his various bodies must have been immune to his own poison, no?
 
It's a good theory, but a lot of things have yet to be explained. Susuanoo should have been in some way affected by the poison if Orochimaru did kill Itachi by doing that. Also, Sasuke should have been poisoned too if that was the case. We should see once and for all what really happened in the next chapter.
 
kiroisenko said:
If you look at Itachi's demeanor, he is clearly banking on not only havin the chakra to pull of all 3 jutsus, but even having enough chakra to slowly savor plucking his brothers eyes out, he's in no rush. I think he would have a pretty good hang on his chakra capacity, no shinobi has ever used chakra to death without knowing they were doing so. Combine that with the snakes slithering away, i'm willing to bet that we learn he was poisoned for cutting Orochimaru's Yamata No Orochi.
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I wouldn't call it proven yet, but I agree that it's definitely the best theory as to why Itachi would have collapsed so suddenly and unexpectedly.

If Itachi knew Susanoo would bring him that close to death, you would think he would've said something like "Not much time left...gotta get the eyes now!" Instead he's talking about taking things slowly and savoring the moment. It doesn't add up. There has to be something else that brought him down at that moment that isn't related to overuse of the MS.
 
it was actually konohamaru that put a part of kiroisenkos brain in itachi and made itachi so stupid he couldnt breath no more and suffocated himself. way to go man, you just killed my favorite character of the manga.
 
MUSOLINI said:
it was actually konohamaru that put a part of kiroisenkos brain in itachi and made itachi so stupid he couldnt breath no more and suffocated himself. way to go man, you just killed my favorite character of the manga.
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Sorry to dissapoint you man, but Oro killed him not me :zaru
 
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