Orochimaru V.S. Tsunade and Kakashi

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Orochimaru is allowed one edo tensei and Kakashi is allowed MS but dies after 2 uses.

But the edo tensei nin is sick and is at 50% of its power.
 
Uhm, a half power Edo Tensai is easily taken care of by Kakashi, and Tsunade dominates Oro, like always.
 
Tsunade and Kakashi would win. One shot of MS or smashy smashy would finish Oro.
 
I love Kakashi but he has shown nothing to kill oro's his MS has no chance of hitting Oro and Tsunda well is Tsunda and Oro's would have to do is use his Hydra justu and edo tensai while he is swing his sword and tounge around and he wins.
 
martryn said:
Uhm, a half power Edo Tensai is easily taken care of by Kakashi, and Tsunade dominates Oro, like always.
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It is true about Kakashi, but i'm pretty sure Oro will not lose to Tsunade. Tsunade didn't even come close to beating him even when Oro had sealed arms.
 
Uhhh she did come close to beating Oro...thing was his arms was sealed and he couldnt do any jutsu which pretty much what makes a ninja...cept Lee lol
 
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Just to point out, Kakashi's MS is practically useless in battle at the moment. It takes him several minutes to activate MS, a few minutes to aim his black hole technique, and he has difficulty hitting moving opponents accurately.
 
Psycho Master said:
Just to point out, Kakashi's MS is practically useless in battle at the moment. It takes him several minutes to activate MS, a few minutes to aim his black hole technique, and he has difficulty hitting moving opponents accurately.
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I think you're basing this on the anime, which is slow as hell :oh

Kakashi sucked Deidara's exploding clone almost instantly.
 
Orochimaru is at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to knowledge, or rather when guided towards Kakashi. Though I don't see the Mangekyō Sharingan playing a larger role in this fight. Mainly due to the amount of time in which it takes to not only charge, but cast the technique. At any rate, the use of such a time consuming jutsu would allow Orochimaru to use his "special" kawarimi or perhaps an extended kusanagi in concurrence with an extension of his neck - preferably through the ground.

Tsuande may be the actual threat in this fight due to her Sōzō Saisei and Ranshinshō. Yet the inclusion of the Edo Tensei, no matter the power level, will give Orochimaru the ability to personally attack one target while Shodai and Nidame deal with the other and opposite opponent.
 
I'm going to ignore edo tensei. Why? Because I think it's key to edo tensei just who Orochimaru has prepared to resurrect, and I don't really see any value in just saying "Orochimaru can summon one of the dead with edo tensei". For me, it's name who or no game.

With yamata, Orochimaru has become very powerful indeed, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and express my confidence in Tsunade's ability not to be easily outmatched. She'd cast Katsuyu, and while her summon might not be as strong as Manda or yamata we've seen first hand what Tsunade does to summons. Her summon would be more about supporting Kakashi than anything else.

It's not impossible for Kakashi to get Mangekyō Sharingan off with a lot of support from Tsunade and Katsuyu, though the chances are low. But with full confidence and Tsunade's support, he can be a threat to Orochimaru – at least enough to make Orochimaru more vulnerable to Tsunade. If Tsunade gets to make a touch, she can ruin Orochimaru with ranshinshō that'll lead to Mangekyō Sharingan.

Either Tsunade or Kakashi alone wouldn't last very long at all, but two high-level shinobi both pretty good at close range, and both with some experience of Orochimaru, might be able to do this with the help of Katsuyu. This is basically 80% Tsunade and 20% Kakashi though: don't underestimate Tsunade, as with sōzō saisei and her oft-underestimated jutsu she can be a huge threat.
 
I think Orochimaru would win this. He took on 2 Sannin without any use of his arms and with some help from Kabuto until Naruto arrived. I know Jiraiya wasnt 100% during the fight but Jiraiya is very strong, 50% Jiraiya could take on Kakashi pretty evenly I think.

Orochimaru this time though has use of both his arms and also can use edo tensei. Since the OP wasnt specific on its rank he could have ressurected Hanzou or The 4th Kazekage. Until we see more of what Tsunade can do im going with Oro.
 
ZabuzaDemonGod, all three had restrictions in that fight, and it's difficult to really say how their restrictions compared. Kakashi's also strong enough to be useful himself, and I think Tsunade on form and Kakashi will be quite a good combination against Orochimaru. Nonetheless, edo tensei decides everything – I'm discussing it as if edo tensei does not exist as I have no idea who he is summoning.

Who he can resurrect just ends the entire thread. If it's another legendary jōnin, it's game over. If it's anyone who can stall Kakashi, it's game over.
 
Serenity said:
ZabuzaDemonGod, all three had restrictions in that fight, and it's difficult to really say how their restrictions compared. Kakashi's also strong enough to be useful himself, and I think Tsunade on form and Kakashi will be quite a good combination against Orochimaru. Nonetheless, edo tensei decides everything – I'm discussing it as if edo tensei does not exist as I have no idea who he is summoning.

Who he can resurrect just ends the entire thread. If it's another legendary jōnin, it's game over. If it's anyone who can stall Kakashi, it's game over.
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What was Tsunade's restriction?(besides being Tsunade of course:p)
 
As littlebeep said, Tsunade had not even been in a fight for decades. I actually consider that perhaps the most significant restriction – Jiraiya recovered from the influence of the drug later into the fight, and Orochimaru was able to fight at almost maximum level in the areas he could still command (plus being able to summon Manda thanks to Kabuto, which was really the only reason he stood tall against those two).

Tsunade had a score of negative levels (D&D reference) in that fight for being so out of practice. You have to understand here: she was a soldier, she gained a fear of blood after traumatic events, and she stopped fighting for decades. Just how out of practice you can get might surprise you – must surprise you, surely, if you don't think she had a restriction. She started to get it back together by the end but I still wouldn't call that prime… And even then, "starting to get it back together" obliterated Orochimaru.
 
Tsunade did beat the snot out of Oro in Part 1, but someone explain to me how Oro can be killed by taijutsu? After his body was torn in half by Kn4 Naruto he literally pulled himself back together. As for Kakashi, he has never even been close to being on an equal playing field with Oro. Manda and the Edo Tensei, if it was Hanzou, would be enough to take down Kakashi. Oro would then proceed to kill Tsunade.
 
hockeyguy33 said:
Tsunade did beat the snot out of Oro in Part 1, but someone explain to me how Oro can be killed by taijutsu? After his body was torn in half by Kn4 Naruto he literally pulled himself back together.
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And that jutsu he used cost him a massive amount of chakra. Katsuyu can spit acid that burns through rock, and Kakashi's raikiri has very high attack power. His Mangekyō Sharingan destroys without question. You may doubt that Tsunade can kill Orochimaru, but you cannot doubt that her attacks could wear him out, injure him seriously, and with ranshinshō prevent him from moving ? then Mangekyō Sharingan ends it.
 
Kakashi and Tsunade win after much difficulty. If Kakashi can manage to hit Orochimaru once with his Mangekou Sharingan ability, it's over. Tsunade isn't considered powerful often, but I think that she should be capable of stopping or putting up a fight against Orochimaru's Edo Tensi summon. As a matter of fact, he might not even get a chance to summon the shinobi since Edo Tensi takes a lot of prep time.
 
Oro is the worst matchup for Kakashi

Kakashi can do nothing against Manda or Yamata no jutsu
his MS is useless beacuse Oro can use his sick snake regeneration

so Manda kills Katsuyu
and hydra kills Tsunade+Kakashi
 
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