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The Demon of Elru
OBD Mythbusters purpose.
To use this thread, and destroy any fabricated or misuse of a scan/claim, through formal explanation and backings.

In the OBD early years, we where brought to believe many things. One of the more sinister internet myths was Superman Prime owning The Sword of Truth. It was brought to an end, when several members brought forth an argument that S. Prime never held the sword in any showings. And that the myth originated when 3 items (among the them SoT), where seen on the cover of the comic book.


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Onslaught beats Jean Grey with the "Phoenix Force".
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Onslaught beats Jean Grey with the "Phoenix Force".

The scans that are used in the claim.




What claimer fails to mention, acknowledge, or is where of.
Moments before the encounter, Onslaught attempts to persuade Jean to join him by promising to rekindle her former glorious power (albeit the Phoenix Force). I really should not go any farther then that, but for some members its not clear enough.

Do not be fooled by Phoenix Effect, it can and has bin replicated by other members in the material world (Nate Grey and Exiles Hyperstorm come to mind). Let alone the fact, that they are in the “Astral Plane”, where elaborate holograms, and astral projections are easy to form.

The Phoenix Force, had left this plane of existence and returned to its natural state. It left its power, and essence to Rachael. Excalibur #64 - April 1993

Rachael Summers, was seen wielding the Phoenix Force in; Askni Rising December 1999

Once Onslaught was identified, simulations where taking place to find out how the X-Men would deal with Onslaught. In one of many simulations, through the death of Scoot. Jean “Could” manifest the Phoenix Force. - The Uncanny X-Man #375

In X-Men Forever (January 2001) - under the threat of “The Stranger”, Jean still did no have the Phoenix Force with her.

Jean did not begin to manifest the Phoenix Rapture until New X-Men #120 - Jan 2002.

The Verdict - Mythbusted - False.
Onslaught never beat Jean with the Phoenix Force, since The Phoenix Force did not reside within Jean to begin with. Yes Jean took on the CODE NAME, Phoenix but it’s a code name honoring Rachael request. Incidentally the Phoenix Force does return back to Jean, 8 years after Onslaught incident.
 
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Nice idea for a thread.

Another myth, in 666Satan, some people still believe that Kirin has FTL reflexes, due to him countering Dofuwa's light speed charge.

What those people don't take into account is that Amidaba's gravity O-Part slowed down Dofuwa to such a degree that Kirin was able to see him with his Cyclops eye to move the spear out of the way, mid-charge.

It should be noted that the Cyclops eye only allows you to impose your will upon an object that you see with it, but doesn't actually speed up your reflexes or give you a form of precog.

That means that there is no way to quantify just how fast Dofuwa was moving, as Kirin's only shown himself to be able to react to sonic and supersonic attacks.
 
Haterade said:
Nice idea for a thread.

Another myth, in 666Satan, some people still believe that Kirin has FTL reflexes, due to him countering Dofuwa's light speed charge.

What those people don't take into account is that Amidaba's gravity O-Part slowed down Dofuwa to such a degree that Kirin was able to see him with his Cyclops eye to move the spear out of the way, mid-charge.

It should be noted that the Cyclops eye only allows you to impose your will upon an object that you see with it, but doesn't actually speed up your reflexes or give you a form of precog.

That means that there is no way to quantify just how fast Dofuwa was moving, as Kirin's only shown himself to be able to react to sonic and supersonic attacks.
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What about Amidaba though? Didn't she activate her O-part after Dofuwa made his charge?
 
Spider-man being a bullet-timer. The fact is two off-hand outlier feats that are completly disproportional and incoherent with the rest of his career are unrealiable. Trackor or whatever his name was using his ability to control the bullet and thus it can easily be contested as the bullet-controlled object as even being and maintaing the speed of a bullet. The second one I know of with the boy and dodging the bullet is equivalent to Superman not splaterring Batman into mush even holding back everything. That is to say, it is essentially non-sensical.
if there are other instances, then I would retract my post depending on said instances.

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The Dark Schneider and Super Saiyajin entries make my brain hurt. It's good that the ones about DS have been busted... We're still working hard on Super Saiyajins though.
 
Pokemon can't die/be killed. Some people think the worst that can happen to a pokemon is fainting as the games and anime never show one being killed in battle.

Proof that they can:
 
I'm tempted to sticky this.
Swajio said:
What about Amidaba though? Didn't she activate her O-part after Dofuwa made his charge?
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It seemed he was in the middle of accelerating when she activated her O-Part...

taken from my 666Satan Respect Thread said:
Dofuwa, who prepared a charge at light speed, Amidaba used her gravity O-Parts to slow down the charge to the point where Dofuwa was visible by Kirin's eye. From there, Kirin was able to manipulate him to easily counter the reduced charge.

*controversial issue*

It is uncertain what the limits of Kirin's Cyclops eye are, considering Amidaba's role in the fight against Dofuwa.

Dofuwa couldn't have been going nearly light speed, because Kirin had time to talk to himself before the charge reached him. On the other hand, an unimpeded charge could have possibly been capable of light speed, and would make Amidaba's gravity O-Part just that powerful.

But then one could argue that if her gravity O-Part was that strong, why weren't Kirin and Amidaba sucked into a gravity well that was capable of significantly slowing down an object moving at light speed?

It's tough to say.
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Pokemon can't die/be killed. Some people think the worst that can happen to a pokemon is fainting as the games and anime never show one being killed in battle.
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That sorta makes me want to read Pokemon. I had always thought it was a good idea poorly executed.
 
mystictrunks said:
Pokemon can't die/be killed. Some people think the worst that can happen to a pokemon is fainting as the games and anime never show one being killed in battle.

Proof that they can:
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Bad example as the same Arbok made a return in the Elite 4 arc revealing it had healing abilities.
Haterade said:
I'm tempted to sticky this.It seemed he was in the middle of accelerating when she activated her O-Part...
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I see.
 
mystictrunks said:
Pokemon can't die/be killed. Some people think the worst that can happen to a pokemon is fainting as the games and anime never show one being killed in battle.

Proof that they can:
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Doesn't it depend on which source we're using though ? Like if I used only the game and specifically gameplay then they should be unkillabe, no? Whereas if I used game text/dialogue and such there is ample evidence (self-evident really) that they can die.
 
Redux-shika boo said:
Doesn't it depend on which source we're using though ? Like if I used only the game and specifically gameplay then they should be unkillabe, no? Whereas if I used game text/dialogue and such there is ample evidence (self-evident really) that they can die.
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Eh, the series creator stated Pokemon Special(theone I posted) was the closest to his vision of how Pokemon should be.


@Swaj
I didn't know that, I just started the E4 arc . . .
 
While we're on the topic, the Poke'mon Anime, Movies and, Comics are NOT canon, only the game is.

@MT: Yea, a better example would be the ghost tower, and the existence of the Gengar evolutionary line.
 
I'm going to throw in the Mihawk cutting elements thing people are always blabbling about.

No he cant. Never once been seen nor stated. Complete bollacks
 
Samurai jack did not cut Marvel adamantium. The Doctor did not specifically
refer to the 616 verses adamantium and that makes a big difference since adamant and any other variation of it's name, is used to denote any hard substance ranging from diamond to really really hard materials.
 
Mr.Despair said:
Samurai jack did not cut Marvel adamantium. The Doctor did not specifically
refer to the 616 verses adamantium and that makes a big difference since adamant and any other variation of it's name, is used to denote any hard substance ranging from diamond to really really hard materials.
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Anybody with a brain knows that. Marvel didn't create Samurai Jack, and Marvel's adamantium only exists in Marvel's comics and cartoons.
 
So what? If it was stated to be Marvel adamantium, it obviously referred to Marvel adamatium. Unless it was adamant. Then it could be anything.
 
Redux-shika boo said:
Spider-man being a bullet-timer. The fact is two off-hand outlier feats that are completly disproportional and incoherent with the rest of his career are unrealiable. Trackor or whatever his name was using his ability to control the bullet and thus it can easily be contested as the bullet-controlled object as even being and maintaing the speed of a bullet. The second one I know of with the boy and dodging the bullet is equivalent to Superman not splaterring Batman into mush even holding back everything. That is to say, it is essentially non-sensical.
if there are other instances, then I would retract my post depending on said instances.

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Do you mean he isn't faster than a bullet( such as running speed), or he doesn't have the speed to dodge a bullet?
 
Yak said:
Long before I made the Bastard!! Directory in the Respect Dome. Actually, I was the first one to clean up with the incredible shit people had spread over the entire internet only from hear-say.
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Hey, what am I? Chopped liver? I worked too.:(
 
Yak said:
Long before I made the Bastard!! Directory in the Respect Dome. Actually, I was the first one to clean up with the incredible shit people had spread over the entire internet only from hear-say.
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Funny, no matter what thread I looked in, no one argued against DS.
 
Wesley said:
Funny, no matter what thread I looked in, no one argued against DS.
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Yeah, that's quite strange. I dunno, how come? Why does no one argue against a guy who's a GALAXY BUSTER. Hm... I mean, if he really tries hard, Luffy should be able to beat him, right? Or at least Ichigo with Vaizard mask on....
 
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