modern marines vs 18th century british army
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Do the marines get unlimited ammo? Because I doubt they have enough bullets 
Battlefield is also important. If they're just gonna stand on an open plane, marines are fucked.
Unless we believe fiction logic, which obviously tells us that the more people are shooting at you, the easier it is to evade them
Battlefield is also important. If they're just gonna stand on an open plane, marines are fucked.
Unless we believe fiction logic, which obviously tells us that the more people are shooting at you, the easier it is to evade them
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Not a chance. The British soldiers rush them, the Americans simply cannot kill all of them before they get close combat and get butt-raped by those bayonets.
Of course that is in a real-life scenario. Most people here are too stupid to understand that and think things in a fictional way.
In that case the Americans win after a long day. They lose some from cannon fire early on but they quickly send someone to sabotage them, some more from random shots but they somehow find a valley which they lure the British. They would then blow it up with a combination of grenades, gun powder and lone soldier who is willing to sacrifice himself to set the fuse. Undoubtedly the same soldier would also have a wife back home that's expecting. He was also earlier in the movie found reminiscing over her with a old photo and explaining the protagonist. Before the fuse is blown, a montage is played with the soldier (who originally was a good friend of the protagonist) crying and limping to set the fuse (undoubtedly he was shot in the leg earlier by a platoon before he quickly dispatched them soon after with his rifle, rifle butt, martial arts (lol) and clever use of granades).
Just as the remaining American run off to minimum safe distance, the valley collapses which kills all the British soldiers, leaving the Americans to make a few jokes before limping off into the sunset. However this is just before a rescue chopper they called for in the first part of the media arrives over the sunset and everyone is happy again, completely forgetting of all the lives lost.
Of course that is in a real-life scenario. Most people here are too stupid to understand that and think things in a fictional way.
In that case the Americans win after a long day. They lose some from cannon fire early on but they quickly send someone to sabotage them, some more from random shots but they somehow find a valley which they lure the British. They would then blow it up with a combination of grenades, gun powder and lone soldier who is willing to sacrifice himself to set the fuse. Undoubtedly the same soldier would also have a wife back home that's expecting. He was also earlier in the movie found reminiscing over her with a old photo and explaining the protagonist. Before the fuse is blown, a montage is played with the soldier (who originally was a good friend of the protagonist) crying and limping to set the fuse (undoubtedly he was shot in the leg earlier by a platoon before he quickly dispatched them soon after with his rifle, rifle butt, martial arts (lol) and clever use of granades).
Just as the remaining American run off to minimum safe distance, the valley collapses which kills all the British soldiers, leaving the Americans to make a few jokes before limping off into the sunset. However this is just before a rescue chopper they called for in the first part of the media arrives over the sunset and everyone is happy again, completely forgetting of all the lives lost.
Bad Milk
A minstrel in the gallery
It's over, you won.
Arishem
Reveler
In a straight-up fight, the marines will get killed, but they can kill hundreds or thousands depending on what they do before the redcoats reach them. Kit and distance will have a tremendous effect on the British's casualties. If every marine has a M203 grenade attachment, then they can kill hundreds at the very start. A few machine gunners can also really ruin their opponents' day. I believe that there is usually one in every ten man squad. Don't get me wrong. I know they will all die, but their kill-to-death ratios should be disgustingly high given the disparity in technology.
Edit: Replace the modern marines with space marines and we'll have a hilarious slaughter on our hands.
Edit: Replace the modern marines with space marines and we'll have a hilarious slaughter on our hands.
mystictrunks
The BOWSS
Britain wins but Morale will be at an all time low. 100 100% pure red blooded Flag waving Americans just killed thousand supon thousands of their men.
The again Britain will be three centuries ahead weapons wise after killing us. The win both world wars single handedly and Britain takes over America.
The again Britain will be three centuries ahead weapons wise after killing us. The win both world wars single handedly and Britain takes over America.
I need distance from each other, battlefield, weapons, etc.
In a open battlefield, the marines would get buttfuck soley because of numbers and ammo. The British would realize after losing close to 70 men that it'll be much easier just to rush them.
BTW: Cannons wont do shit. They randomly fired those things the majority of the time to frag any stranglers. To acutally hit a target they would make a series of adjustments until that had the right angle. With that being said, how likely would they hit small number of people that most likely wont be standing in place the entire time?
In a open battlefield, the marines would get buttfuck soley because of numbers and ammo. The British would realize after losing close to 70 men that it'll be much easier just to rush them.
BTW: Cannons wont do shit. They randomly fired those things the majority of the time to frag any stranglers. To acutally hit a target they would make a series of adjustments until that had the right angle. With that being said, how likely would they hit small number of people that most likely wont be standing in place the entire time?
CrazyMoronX
Old Man
They used to just stand in long lines of people and march into battle in them days. They'd get slaughtered up until a charge was given. Then they'd just stab the marines to death.
Still, they'd have heavy casualties for their dumb-shit tactics.
Still, they'd have heavy casualties for their dumb-shit tactics.
Random Nobody
Alien Fighting
Marines lose. The only debate here is how many Redcoats they kill first.
Sesshoumaru
Lord of the Western Lands
Hmph. This Sesshoumaru likes those odds.
British Brown Bess muskets used during that era could hit a man's torso at a maximum of 220 yards, and reliably accurate up to only 70 yards. US Marines engage at the minimum of point-blank range and at a maximum of 500 yards depending on the scenario.
The Revolution Era British Army are limited in their adaptability and quality of soldiers. Grunst depend on NCOs, who in turn look to their COs for guidance and orders. Scatter a group of Red Coats, kill their officer, or kill enough NCOs and they will falter. In the Marines you can find leadership from COs, NCOs and down to lowly Privates. Marines are trained to become leaders on the field; to think, adapt and take charge. If a squad of twelve Marines (3 fire teams) are seperated from four of their own, that small fire team can act independantly and follow their mission parameters before linking up with their group.
Weaponry is one major key, along with the outload of each individual. Red Coats are armed with a bayonet, Brown Bess muzzle-loading musket and a sack containing cartidges and shots. Of that 112,000 Red Coats less than 2 % are not wearing such gear. A 2nd Run Brown Bess fires a .71-73 caliber shot that has a maximum range of 220 yards, yet is only reliably accurate at 70 yards.
The basic Marine fireteam consist of four Marines - fire-team leader, gunner, and two assist. gunners. The most basic Marine combat loadout consist of the M16A2 service rifle, 330 rounds of ammunition (11 magazines, two fragmentation grenades, smoke grenade, flare and bayonet. This does not include extra magazines, M203 grenade launchers, M249/240 automatic rifles, shotguns, pistols, extra grenades and other destructive devices such as anti-tank missiles and claymores.
Tactics is a major win for Marines. British Red Coats fought lining up in rows of three and firing simultaneously, then fire the nest row while the first steps back and reloads. Unless you have not seen the many war movies out, Marine combat tactics are self-explanatory.
1000 Marines consist of the combat elements of a Marine Expeditionary Unit.
British Brown Bess muskets used during that era could hit a man's torso at a maximum of 220 yards, and reliably accurate up to only 70 yards. US Marines engage at the minimum of point-blank range and at a maximum of 500 yards depending on the scenario.
The Revolution Era British Army are limited in their adaptability and quality of soldiers. Grunst depend on NCOs, who in turn look to their COs for guidance and orders. Scatter a group of Red Coats, kill their officer, or kill enough NCOs and they will falter. In the Marines you can find leadership from COs, NCOs and down to lowly Privates. Marines are trained to become leaders on the field; to think, adapt and take charge. If a squad of twelve Marines (3 fire teams) are seperated from four of their own, that small fire team can act independantly and follow their mission parameters before linking up with their group.
Weaponry is one major key, along with the outload of each individual. Red Coats are armed with a bayonet, Brown Bess muzzle-loading musket and a sack containing cartidges and shots. Of that 112,000 Red Coats less than 2 % are not wearing such gear. A 2nd Run Brown Bess fires a .71-73 caliber shot that has a maximum range of 220 yards, yet is only reliably accurate at 70 yards.
The basic Marine fireteam consist of four Marines - fire-team leader, gunner, and two assist. gunners. The most basic Marine combat loadout consist of the M16A2 service rifle, 330 rounds of ammunition (11 magazines, two fragmentation grenades, smoke grenade, flare and bayonet. This does not include extra magazines, M203 grenade launchers, M249/240 automatic rifles, shotguns, pistols, extra grenades and other destructive devices such as anti-tank missiles and claymores.
Tactics is a major win for Marines. British Red Coats fought lining up in rows of three and firing simultaneously, then fire the nest row while the first steps back and reloads. Unless you have not seen the many war movies out, Marine combat tactics are self-explanatory.
1000 Marines consist of the combat elements of a Marine Expeditionary Unit.
Random Nobody
Alien Fighting
Too bad there's only a hundred here.
Evangeline
Maga Nosferatu
Marines get zerg rushed to death. However the marines take out lots before going.
Random Nobody
Alien Fighting
^ That's what happens when you don't construct additional Pylons.
Sesshoumaru
Lord of the Western Lands
Damn that Naraku. The vile hanyou had fooled this Sesshoumaru into seeing 1000, not 100.
Still, the odds are in the Marines favor in both fire-power, tactics and the type of warfare the British utilize during those times. When faced with a technologically inferior enemy who outstretches your allies in numbers, the idea is to attack the head of the snake.
Two platoons of infantry (90 Marines) and a Recon squad (10 Marines). Two of the Recon Marines are scout snipers.
Good-bye, Cornwallis.
Random Nobody
Alien Fighting
Nobody's denying the Marine's superiority in those regards, but the problem is until the OP comes back and gives us some info on the battlefield we've gotta use the General Battledome we use for all fights without a listed setting. Which means you have 100 Marines stuck in a dome with no cover and only 20 paces away from over a hundred thousand British who are ready to shoot them full of holes.
omg laser pew pew!
is feeling greedy
I believe that is the South Park vs Simpsons map
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