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Itachi, SM jirairya, A3 and kisame vs kcm naruto

Sufex

The Ghost
Mastered Kcm with co op

Team have manga knowledge

Naruto has rep

20 meters
 
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MHA massive fan

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A3 gets quickly beaten by kisame so it’s essentially a stronger kisame after draining A3
+ naruto against itschi and Jiriaya

very tough fight could go either way but will lean on Itachi and Jiriaya because it’s 3 v 2.
 

Turrin

玄武
How does he solo with yellow flash shushin which blitzes his faster son (by feats)
1) Ei4 wasn’t blitz, Naruto just evaded his attack

2) Ei4 isn’t faster then Ei3 by feats, Ei3 evade KCM Naruto attacks and took a complex Feint to hit

3) Even if Naruto does land an attack it will lack the AP to beat Ei3
 

Extramarital Child

Well-Known Member
1) Ei4 wasn’t blitz, Naruto just evaded his attack

2) Ei4 isn’t faster then Ei3 by feats, Ei3 evade KCM Naruto attacks and took a complex Feint to hit

3) Even if Naruto does land an attack it will lack the AP to beat Ei3
This is KCM2 who is much stronger than kcm1 who is stronger than Datclone
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
1) Ei4 wasn’t blitz, Naruto just evaded his attack

2) Ei4 isn’t faster then Ei3 by feats, Ei3 evade KCM Naruto attacks and took a complex Feint to hit

3) Even if Naruto does land an attack it will lack the AP to beat Ei3

1) Yes, he was blitzed.

2) By feats and portrayal Ay4 is faster, Ay3 is compared to V1 Ay4 only, never V2.

3) Chou Odama FRS smokes this joker.
 

Bonly

Well-Known Member
Naruto wins without too many problems as he can create at least 20 High Kage lvl+ clones which means 5 High Kage lvl clones per person and seeing as how the clones can hold a FRS in one hand along with a COR in another hand as well as create two chakra arms for a Rasengan variant, these guys are gonna get blitzed and nuked to hell
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
Kisame is worthless here, any clone takes him out easily. SM Jiraiya goes down to two clones tops, even one should be enough.

Three clones can beat Itachi while Ay3 falls to Chou Odama FRS.
 

Turrin

玄武
1) Yes, he was blitzed.

2) By feats and portrayal Ay4 is faster, Ay3 is compared to V1 Ay4 only, never V2.

3) Chou Odama FRS smokes this joker.
1) A side step isn’t a blitz

2) Ei3 required SM sensing to side step at the last second which has better reactions then KCM1, who was able to side-step Ei4 at the last second

3) Unless you can scale Chou Oddoma FRS above Hachibi TBB massively it won’t
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
1) A side step isn’t a blitz

2) Ei3 required SM sensing to side step at the last second which has better reactions then KCM1, who was able to side-step Ei4 at the last second

3) Unless you can scale Chou Oddoma FRS above Hachibi TBB massively it won’t

1) KCM Naruto didn't sidestep, he literally got behind Ay4 at the time Ay4 threw his fastest punch.

2) KCM Naruto clone already blitzed Ay3. SM is not needed.

3) Ay3 never tanked Gyuki's Bijuudama and got damaged by a regular Rasenshuriken and his armor scuffed by a SM Rasengan. Chou Odama KCM FRS vaporizes this fodder.
 

ObitoOfTheOrangeMask

My left nut ain't hurting
Kisame gets blitzed by KCM shunshin as it happened in canon :



Naruto can send a clone to take out Kisame before he uses his Waterdome while his other clones will pressure Itachi and Jiraiya .

Although , if Kisame uses Waterdome , Jiraiya , A3 , and Itachi will most likely drown , so it's highly unlikely for IC Kisame to even use it . But if he attempts to do it anyway , he'll be taken out before the cast of it .

A3 , despite his durability and one-shot technique , isn't fast enough to tag Naruto , and a miniature TBB , or 2 FRSs , or a single COFRS will take him out , especially the miniature TBB which scales significantly above than the same FRS that cut through A3's cloak and left some marks on his skin :



Even if those 3 wouldn't hypothetically kill him by an asspulled miracle , they would at least destroy his RNY cloak , and from there , Naruto can finish him off as he'll be vulnerable . Not to mention that A3 was briefly knocked out from that FRS , meaning that Naruto has good window to finish him off with the second FRS .

Jiraiya is a non-factor here , and will get dogblitzed and one-shotted if he doesn't stay inside Itachi's V4 Susanoo . And at that point , Naruto can create 3-5 clones that will attack the V4 from multiple angles to bypass Yata Defense with mini TBBs , FRSs , and COFRs to bust it open , and once that happens , both Jiraiya and Itachi will be taken out .

Itachi's Amaterasu won't tag Naruto as he is too fast at this point , he already scales above V2 flicker that dodged Amaterasu .





Totsuka blade is evaded by KCM flicker as well , and in case Itachi opts to cover the area with Amaterasu , Naruto and his clones can still attack from considerable distances with ranged COFRSs .

Jiraiya won't have enough time to prep Frog Song before Itachi's V4 is busted open , and that assuming he'll even camp inside , because if he doesn't , he'll get molested at the start of the fight .

KCM1 Naruto takes it .
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
4v1?

Naruto loses badly.

Unless 13 high kage clones lol @Aegon Targaryen

4v1? A bunch of people that (apart from Itachi and Kisame) have no history or feats of working together? Against the guy whose clone nigh soloed Muu and Ay3 in separate fights, and can make 10 of those?

Naruto destroys these fodders.

Stay mad :avalon
 

Turrin

玄武
1) KCM Naruto didn't sidestep, he literally got behind Ay4 at the time Ay4 threw his fastest punch.

2) KCM Naruto clone already blitzed Ay3. SM is not needed.

3) Ay3 never tanked Gyuki's Bijuudama and got damaged by a regular Rasenshuriken and his armor scuffed by a SM Rasengan. Chou Odama KCM FRS vaporizes this fodder.
1) No Ei4 kept moving forward after Naruto side-stepped him that’s why Ei4 is behind him

2) No KCM needed a feint to land an attack on him that’s not a blitz

3) He wasn’t even scratched by FRS, which is better durability then 50% Kurama whose > Hachibi who tanked it’s own TBB
 

dabi

Well-Known Member
Kisame is worthless here, any clone takes him out easily. SM Jiraiya goes down to two clones tops, even one should be enough.

Three clones can beat Itachi while Ay3 falls to Chou Odama FRS.
I agree with Aegon here.

Kisame and Jiraiya are blitz fodder.

Ay3 lasts a bit longer but goes down eventually since his greatest asset, speed, is countered by 20 people with superior speed.

The thought of Itachi giving KCM more than a mid diff fight is laughable.

You should add Kabuto fight Sasuke or MS Obito to make it more fair.
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
1) No Ei4 kept moving forward after Naruto side-stepped him

Fanfiction. Ay4 is behind Naruto because NARUTO moved to Ay4's back, Ay4 never changed direction.

2) No KCM needed a feint to land an attack on him that’s not a blitz

More fanfiction lol. KCM Naruto outright moved faster than Ay3 can react and fed him a FRS. That's a blitz, period.

Naruto even outright states he closed the distance against Ay3 and consequently, hit him. No feints, just pure speed.

3) He wasn’t even scratched by FRS

Flat out lie. The manga depicts Ay3 being damaged and scarred, and even SM Rasengan cracked his cloak (it seems).

which is better durability then 50% Kurama whose > Hachibi who tanked it’s own TBB

Bijuus are resistant to their Bijuudamas (the Juubi takes more damage from FRS than Bijuudama from Kurama, Gyuki took more dmaage from Kokuo and Saiken than Bijuudama, etc etc) - they have no special resistance to cutting attacks or the FRS, certainly not Gyuki.

Gyuki lost tails to normal shuriken loool.
 
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Turrin

玄武
Fanfiction. Ay4 is behind Naruto because NARUTO moved to Ay4's back, Ay4 never changed direction.



More fanfiction lol. KCM Naruto outright moved faster than Ay3 can react and fed him a FRS. That's a blitz, period.

Naruto even outright states he closed the distance against Ay3 and consequently, hit him. No feints, just pure speed.



Flat out lie. The manga depicts Ay3 being damaged and scarred, and even SM Rasengan cracked his cloak (it seems).



Bijuus are resistant to their Bijuudamas (the Juubi takes more damage from FRS than Bijuudama from Kurama, Gyuki took more dmaage from Kokuo and Saiken than Bijuudama, etc etc) - they have no special resistance to cutting attacks or the FRS, certainly not Gyuki.

Gyuki lost tails to normal shuriken loool.
1) Ei4 doesn’t need to change direction, if he keeps charging forwards, he will end up behind Naruto if he just side steps horizontally

2) If KCM Naruto moved faster then Ei3 he would have hit him with his first attack with FRS, rather then Ei3 dodging him twice and him needing to feint him form behind

3) Cracks are no indicative of damage, we’ve been through this, so I’m not going to bother to go there’s again. And there is no way FRS scarred him as Naruto specifically wonders how Raikage could be scarred if FRS didn’t effect him. And it’s literally stated 2 other times beyond this that the FRS had zero effect on him by Naruto and the Data-Books. Saying it did is a complete denial of canon.

4) The Bijuu being resistant to their Bijuudama is Baselss. Koku’s attack does not do more damage then a TBB; and Juubi does not take more damage from a FRS. Both instances are totally made up on your part
 

Aegon Targaryen

The Shield That Guards The Realm of Men
1) Ei4 doesn’t need to change direction, if he keeps charging forwards, he will end up behind Naruto if he just side steps horizontally

But if Ay4 doesn't change direction and Naruto manages to get behind Ay4 at the same time the latter throws his punch, that means Naruto could get to Ay4's blindspot at the same time the latter can produce their fastest movement. That's a blitz gap, Turrin.

2) If KCM Naruto moved faster then Ei3 he would have hit him with his first attack with FRS, rather then Ei3 dodging him twice and him needing to feint him form behind

Bro, do you read the manga? :confusedny

Naruto attacked Ay3 the first times with chakra arms from a distance, after that he physically closed the distance against Ay3 using his super speed and this time Ay3 utterly failed to dodge it, block it, etc. Travel speed =/ striking speed, do you really need to be told this?



3) Cracks are no indicative of damage

They are if they appear only, and only after the guy actually gets hit by an attack. It's not coincidence, this is a children's manga.

Connect the dots.

Here. No crack.





Here. Cracked.





we’ve been through this

Yes, and you still insist on being incorrect...

so I’m not going to bother to go there’s again

Concession accepted, mate.

And there is no way FRS scarred him as Naruto specifically wonders how Raikage could be scarred if FRS didn’t effect him

Bro, do you not understand the difference between:

A) a measly crack

B) a real, distinct permanent scar?

And it’s literally stated 2 other times beyond this that the FRS had zero effect on him by Naruto and the Data-Books

And right here you don't understand what an exaggeration is lol :mjlol

The Rasenshuriken DID affect Ay3, it just essentially did nothing to him.

The dude could still get back up in seconds and keep fighting uninhibited as if nothing happened.

Saying it did is a complete denial of canon

Actually, saying it didn't is. The images make it clear what happened, and it's clear the FRS did a bit of damage to Ay3.

4) The Bijuu being resistant to their Bijuudama is Baselss

It's a fact.

Koku’s attack does not do more damage then a TBB

Literally leaves Gyuki injured for the remainder of the fight, something BM Naruto notes chapters later to still be the case, and renders him vulnerable enough at first that Obito faces ZERO resistance from him upon trying to abduct Naruto, only stopped by the Masters.

It absolutely does more damage than a Bijuudama.

and Juubi does not take more damage from a FRS

Liar :camby

The Juubi fully no sold Kurama and Gyuki's Bijuudamas.

The Juubi had its appendages cut in half by Double Rasenshuriken.

Both instances are totally made up on your part

I guess I'm Kishimoto then, given everything I have said is straight from the manga.
 
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