Is it justified for Humans to fear Mutants in Marvel?

[Impulse]

I know this has been talked about before

But want to know this place opinion

Does it make sense for Mutants/Homo Superior to be discriminated and feared by normal humans

I know there other sub-species of Humans like Inhumans, Eternals and Deviants but they mostly live in secret

 

[Hyugadoobadoo]

Absolutely.

Not only does human discrimination against mutants make perfect sense, but Magneto is almost certainly right that they are in a war of self preservation and one side needs to exterminate the other.

Also, mutants probably can't coexist even with each other and should be exterminated for the benefit of the planet.

We like to pretend that we live in this amazing world of rules and laws, but the truth is, laws and rules are still enforced by military might. No matter how civilized we have gotten, nothing at all has changed in the most primitive argument, Might Makes Right.

What does society and law mean when you have someone so powerful you can't enforce those rules?

"Oh but there are good guy mutants"....

We have always lived in the Wild West. The faction with the best weapons always holds power.

What happens when someone can just be born with better weapons, bigger guns, and more firepower than anyone else?

Even if you have a group of well meaning X Men, what happens to societal stability in the face of high end reality warpers like Franklin Richards should he just decide to say "fuck being a good boy".

The only answer I can think of is someone like Xavier.

Does anyone not understand the horrifying moral implications of one person being able to mind control everyone on earth simultaneously?

Even if you think he is morally incorruptible, what if someone else is born with that same power but stronger?

How do you build a functioning growing society where every random kid can have planet or at least society ending powers?

How would our society be if every person got issued standard a nuclear briefcase bomb?

Magneto is right in the sense that humans cannot coexist with mutants. But he is short sighted in not realizing MUTANTS cannot coexist with mutants. A society where people are born with such... reality defining (LITERALLY) natural advantages, you can't build a stable society.

 

[aiyanah]

well yes, simply.
the humans in marvelverse are well justified in fearing the mutants of the xmen cast.
it would be one thing if the mutations just gave some people gills and they could breathe underwater, it's another when these mutations can make an individual a localised master of some or another force of nature. never mind the wildly dangerous telepaths.
it get's worse when they realise that mutant gene's can stack and present even more wild power concepts and weird phenotype's.

prof x was mistaken for wanting to be the mlk of human/mutant relations, and magneto was actually right.
i very much like the concept of nimrod in marvel, basically what would have to happen for prof x's dream to be realised is that a genetic culling of any humans who possessed any sort of distrust for mutants to take place. would also have to keep up with future mutations emerging in offspring, or would perhaps have to make the mutation of not being distrusting of mutants the norm.

failing that, someone will eventually develop the sentinels (tech permitting,) and then mother mould and a nimrod would eventually emerge to act as a direct counterweight to mutants and their overbearing power.
and for humanity, for the sentinel developer to never exist, means that humanity will be no more as eventually everyone will be a mutant, or just a slave to nimrod who promised to rid us of the mutant scourge in exchange for our humanity anyway.
there's no winning if the mutants insist on sharing the earth. at least no "humane" way of winning.

 

[Galan]

It is . How would you feel if a Mutant with fire powers lives near you? You would always live in fear that one day he might harm you and your family. Though Stryker went too extreme his fear was justified. It's not like all mutants are saints. Professor X Jean , Logan have made critical mistakes in the past.

 

[Karasu]

Meh it's just like discussing power, wealth, influence, etc. on any level. Some will act one way, and others will act differently depending on their perspective/what they see as right and wrong...and how that changes (it's seldom something that doesn't change).

 

[~Avant~]

It’s kind of stupid tbh. If the X-Men lived in a self contained universe then it’d be perfect. But with the Avengers and other superhero teams running around, the fact that they get hated for just being born with their powers makes no sense.

 

[Impulse]

It’s kind of stupid tbh. If the X-Men lived in a self contained universe then it’d be perfect. But with the Avengers and other superhero teams running around, the fact that they get hated for just being born with their powers makes no sense.

It more of the idea that mutants are going to replace normal humans that fears them and that anyone can be a mutant

Remembers that mutants are people born with to get powers at some point in their lives unlike most avengers and Marvel wants to treat them as separate race known as Homo Superior

 

[Freshmaker]

Yes the humans are justified in fearing potential Omega Level Mutants just someday popping out of nowhere and causing havoc! Now the other 2 level mutants probably not as much but they can still manifest randomly so at best they all get 50/50.

 

[Aduro]

In the New Mutants, there was an alternate future in which Sunspot was the dictator of a Mutant Master Race. It definitely qualified as a bad future. The Hellfire Club is a mutant-led group of villains basically aiming to set themselves up as rulers of Earth. Mutants do represent a potential master race. However the most dangerous mutants are often ones who are desperate because of persecution by humans. The Xavier School and Krakoa are definitely a better way to preserve peace than sentinels and concentration camps, or would be if they didn't keep getting attacked.







It is understandable when you think about how much damage a mentally ill mutant like David Haller could do without even having control of their own powers. Let alone an actual evil mutant. But terrorising mutants is not a logical solution to it.

I always get the feeling that the humans who push back most harshly on mutant rights are more the type who like America's current balance of power and don't want to change things up. Guys Like Cameron Hodge and Robert Kelly.



IRL, the politicians who compare mutants to a kid carrying a hangun would probably be the same ones who are very protective of the second amendment after mass shootings.

 

[Mider T]

It’s kind of stupid tbh. If the X-Men lived in a self contained universe then it’d be perfect. But with the Avengers and other superhero teams running around, the fact that they get hated for just being born with their powers makes no sense.

It more of the idea that mutants are going to replace normal humans that fears them and that anyone can be a mutant

Remembers that mutants are people born with to get powers at some point in their lives unlike most avengers and Marvel wants to treat them as separate race known as Homo Superior

Also most heroes don't run around, they usually fly.

 

[wibisana]

let say IRL i am just a human have mutant neighbors
would i be afraid? depend if they can be held accountable. if there is powerful enough police that can kill them if they do crime. they cant mindread/mindcontrol such law enforcement then i wouldnt be worry. but if you expect me to not worry only depend on blind trust, that every mutant will be good is stupid

 

[aiyanah]

It’s kind of stupid tbh. If the X-Men lived in a self contained universe then it’d be perfect. But with the Avengers and other superhero teams running around, the fact that they get hated for just being born with their powers makes no sense.

but the supers in general get mixed responses from the public.
the point of marvelverse is that we don't see the story from regular civilians pov. we see it from the supers pov, and sometimes the supers are remarkably human.
meanwhile the human cost of these universe shattering battles is not what we see.

the x-men, while wanting to be harmless, simply cannot be, because they are flawed. they are not gods but can manifest the powers of one, and yet they can still become devils.
ergo marvel bit the bullet on the state of the xmen with house of x. it could never functionally be sunshine and rainbows even if the xmen existed sans the supers and gods and cosmic entities.