How Konoha Indoctrinates Its Youth

[acrimonious spinebreak]

I’ve noticed that most of the characters in this comic have a pronounced bias towards Konoha. It seems like much of that can be attributed to the selective nature of village history the natives of Konoha are taught in their ninja training school.

1. Konoha is not more ethical than other nations.

There is a common belief among most of the characters in Naruto that Konoha village is more honorable than all other hidden ninja villages. It’s no coincidence that most of the characters in Naruto were born in and raised in Konoha. Konoha ninja children are indoctrinated from an extremely early age, and a sense that they are on the right side in any war is most likely instilled in them by any means.

All villages engage each other in contests where children kill each other in vicious hand to hand combat. Konoha hosts these competitions in a dark forest of evil. The final rounds are fought in front of a crowd of cheering observers at the local colloseum!

Akatsuki represents the vilest collection of murderous Ninja from the five major nations. Out of 9 members we have confirmed that Uchiha Itachi, Orochimaru, and Uchiha Madara (33%) were originally from Konoha Village. That’s really not a very good showing in the ethics department.

All villages commit murder for money.

2. Konoha caused many of the world’s problems by creating an imbalance in power and weakening the militaries of its neighbors.

We know that two out of five of Konoha’s neighbors were subverted by Konoha war criminals or organizations including shinobi from Konoha.

The sand village’s Kage was murdered by Orochimaru and its military subverted in order to fulfill a personal vendetta and capture a Sasuke.

The hidden village of rain’s Kage was murdered by the student of a Konoha shinobi working in collusion with the kin-slaying ex-head of Konoha’s police force.

3. The Length of Known History in Naruto

How many generations back does the history of Konoha actually go? It seems like anywhere before 4 or 5 generations ago is really hazy to most characters in Naruto. There’s no discernable religion in the ninja villages. In fact, when you infrequently see a flashback of the distant past it’s always associated with war, and horror, and human suffering. Remember the war council in which Tsunade begged that more medics be trained and a medic be included on every mission (which isn’t actually done all the time anyway) and the elderly Sarutobi who portrays himself as a saint is remembered as a cruel ruthless general?

Sarutobi wanted to convince the population that they’d put that terrible past behind them by winning the Ninja Wars, and he encouraged the public to believe the Fourth had dispelled the last remnants of that evil by sealing the Kyuubi. He even forbade that it should even be mentioned.

Regardless of the humanitarian streak that may reveal in him towards the child of his successor it also shows the predisposition towards manipulating history at the core of village philosophy.

4. Ninjas Are Secretive

Konoha doesn’t even know very much about the other Nations. It’s a big deal for one ninja to recognize another ninja and know him by name. You have to be in the international criminal’s book or be a famous unique ninja like Kakashi to be well known.

How can you trust the opinions expressed by Konoha shinobi in relation to the power of other Ninjas and villages that they know through vague rumors or the occasional battle.

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It’s really cool to see how the things we took for granted as being true about Konoha turned out to be the cleverly crafted lies an elite ninja organization uses to indoctrinate its members.

 

[Austeria]

I've always known that Konohanians are a bunch of Nazis with Naruto as their Aryan poster boy.

 

[Cyphon]

This could be the case... maybe Konoha really is bad... i like the way they do it though

 

[Pokeman]

And people downplay Sasuke for being immoral, theres nothing moral about Konoha in the first place.

 

[nindragon]

^ No wonder Sasuke left them.

 

[lucid dream]

Oh wow, so they're ninjas and they kill? Interesting, I thought that was the job of every ninja in this manga. War and power is a big part of the Narutoverse, Konoha has to survive in this world. Again, they are ninjas.

Also, all societies have their corruption, no one thinks Konoha is perfect I'm sure but they're hardly villainous either. And as far as I've seen they don't believe nor do they support killing your friends for more shinobi related power. They didn't allow Itachi killing Shisui or Orochimaru experimenting on citizens, just so they could have two very powerful shinobi. That would have been something to talk about.

 

[Pokeman]

That still doesn't justify the things they did in the past and how they handled most ninja and people back then, they were a currupt village just like the sound were. Now, they're hinding behind a moral wall since they feel they can forget about what they done in the past. And they still kill people for no reason.

 

[Canute87]

Well for the Uchihas, evil is in their blood....Seriously.

Orochimaru SHOULD have been killed but it was because sarutobi loved his student so much Orochimaru escaped and all that shit happened.


But no matter how you wanna twist it, it was the great Ninja war that twisted all these guys up.

 

[Pokeman]

I feel the need for a war arc now.

 

[Canute87]

I feel the need for a war arc now.

It would serve as a great last arc to finish the naruto series.

But this is Kishimoto we're talkiing about.

Our hope lies in the anime team

 

[lucid dream]

That still doesn't justify the things they did in the past and how they handled most ninja and people back then, they were a currupt village just like the sound were. Now, they're hinding behind a moral wall since they feel they can forget about what they done in the past. And they still kill people for no reason.

I never tried to justify anything. All I said was despite this Konoha is hardly villainous, and every society has it's corruptions.

 

[lt_durcalo]

first of all, let me say that this is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen. But i'll do you the decency of giving you a non hate-filled response.

I?ve noticed that most of the characters in this comic have a pronounced bias towards Konoha. It seems like much of that can be attributed to the selective nature of village history the natives of Konoha are taught in their ninja training school.

I'm sorry, but every single country in the world makes teaching its own history first priority. Also, you don't see anything that was taught in the academy - so it's really illogical to think you can assess what they teach the children. A large factor in this comes from the fact that the main character, Naruto, learned absolutely nothing at the academy, but that doesn't mean they didn't teach anything. In fact, coming out of the academy, Sakura & Sasuke are at least sufficiently educated about other nations. (Sakura seems pretty unaffected by the tracker ninja in wave country). I shouldn't have to go on but I will...

1. Konoha is not more ethical than other nations.

There is a common belief among most of the characters in Naruto that Konoha village is more honorable than all other hidden ninja villages. It?s no coincidence that most of the characters in Naruto were born in and raised in Konoha. Konoha ninja children are indoctrinated from an extremely early age, and a sense that they are on the right side in any war is most likely instilled in them by any means.

All villages engage each other in contests where children kill each other in vicious hand to hand combat. Konoha hosts these competitions in a dark forest of evil. The final rounds are fought in front of a crowd of cheering observers at the local colloseum!

In case you missed the entire political policy of the third Hokage (carried down from the 1st & 2nd), it has been to not start wars with other country. The Third's largest political opposition is Danzo, who wants to be a more aggressive country, although the rest of the village disagrees with this philosophy.

Also, it is a country where you reach adult-hood quicker than you would in America - and we don't have to cry out about that. Not a single ninja is given permission to participate in the Chunin exams unless they are deemed worthy to do so. Even Team Guy - who is a year older than the 9 rookies - was a major exception to the rule. They don't just let any children walk into the forest alone. The goal of the exams is not to kill each other, it is to work together as a team to make it through hardship. Martial arts competitions are held all over the world all the time. Do you think there are usually empty arenas for them? or do people show up to watch. Killing is not the goal, but it does happen on occasion. The matches are often stopped as soon as a winner is clear - which is long before death is imminent.

Akatsuki represents the vilest collection of murderous Ninja from the five major nations. Out of 9 members we have confirmed that Uchiha Itachi, Orochimaru, and Uchiha Madara (33%) were originally from Konoha Village. That?s really not a very good showing in the ethics department.

First of all, the Akatsuki had 11 members - the 10 members plus it's founder. There were 10 rings, and Madara didn't wear one. So, that's only three out of 11 (27.3%).
Secondly, since when was it a good idea to judge a society by it's criminals? Does Timothy McVay represent American ethics and values? How about Ted Kosinski? Those people do not represent American ethics. All Orochimaru, Itachi, & Madara prove is that any society can produce criminals.

All villages commit murder for money.

Did I fail to miss a single time where Konoha accepted a mission to assassinate somebody? Most of the missions are protect this person or that person, escort royalty, so on and so forth.

2. Konoha caused many of the world?s problems by creating an imbalance in power and weakening the militaries of its neighbors.

All Konoha did was make itself strong, so that it couldn't be invaded. I fail to see where that is a bad thing. There is no support for a claim that Konoha has stated any wars, because it is a peace-seeking country.

We know that two out of five of Konoha?s neighbors were subverted by Konoha war criminals or organizations including shinobi from Konoha.

The sand village?s Kage was murdered by Orochimaru and its military subverted in order to fulfill a personal vendetta and capture a Sasuke.

The hidden village of rain?s Kage was murdered by the student of a Konoha shinobi working in collusion with the kin-slaying ex-head of Konoha?s police force.

Once again, you can't judge an entire society by it's criminals who are acting on their own - or at least not on the village's accord. Konoha was not behind these attacks, unassociated, evil men were.

3. The Length of Known History in Naruto

How many generations back does the history of Konoha actually go? It seems like anywhere before 4 or 5 generations ago is really hazy to most characters in Naruto. There?s no discernable religion in the ninja villages. In fact, when you infrequently see a flashback of the distant past it?s always associated with war, and horror, and human suffering.

Simple, Kishi had a lot of issues and motifs to deal with, and he decided there just wasn't enough room to cover religion.

Remember the war council in which Tsunade begged that more medics be trained and a medic be included on every mission (which isn?t actually done all the time anyway) and the elderly Sarutobi who portrays himself as a saint is remembered as a cruel ruthless general?

I think that's a rather harsh interpretation. Sarutobi saw the wisdom in such a plan, but realized that Konoha did not have the numbers to facilitate such a plan. Also, it would require years and years of training to even get that off the ground, so it was not a feasible option at the time. If someone came to any President [to avoid off-topic Bush bashing] and told him we should have robot-controlled planes to reduce military casualties he would turn you away and tell you that it isn't possible at the time - because the resources and technology is not readily available. He was not cruel, he was simply stating that it was a current impossibility.

Sarutobi wanted to convince the population that they?d put that terrible past behind them by winning the Ninja Wars, and he encouraged the public to believe the Fourth had dispelled the last remnants of that evil by sealing the Kyuubi. He even forbade that it should even be mentioned.

The reason that mentioning the Kyuubi/Naruto connection was forbidden was so that Naruto could have even the smallest semblance of a chance for a normal life - despite not having any family at all. It was an act of sheer kindness that Sarutobi made such talk forbidden.

Regardless of the humanitarian streak that may reveal in him towards the child of his successor it also shows the predisposition towards manipulating history at the core of village philosophy.

Where did he manipulate history? Every adult in the village knew about Naruto & the kyuubi. The only thing that his act prevented was the children using it as fodder for hatred towards Naruto. He didn't manipulate history. All that needed to be known was that the Fox attack was stopped by Minato, that's it. It wasn't necessary for the village children to know about Naruto's secret.

4. Ninjas Are Secretive

Konoha doesn?t even know very much about the other Nations. It?s a big deal for one ninja to recognize another ninja and know him by name. You have to be in the international criminal?s book or be a famous unique ninja like Kakashi to be well known.

If you haven't noticed yet, this isn't an age of technological revolution. There are no cell phones, no instant messaging. They still use birds to pass messages. It only makes sense that they couldn't know absolutely everything.

How can you trust the opinions expressed by Konoha shinobi in relation to the power of other Ninjas and villages that they know through vague rumors or the occasional battle.

because 1, they have no reason to lie to the reader and 2, that is one of the primary reasons behind the Chunin exams.

--

It?s really cool to see how the things we took for granted as being true about Konoha turned out to be the cleverly crafted lies an elite ninja organization uses to indoctrinate its members.

Again, you don't know anything that is taught in the academy whatsoever, so you can't make a fair assessment that something like that is the case. This isn't some Nazi regime that is raising camps of children soldiers to take over the world.

This is a peaceful society, one that does not seek war, that preaches the Will of Fire, that the village is one family.

And lastly, where would you rather live, in a country where the leader fought to save the lives of everyone within it, or a country where the head council decided it was going to try and kill off a child that they were afraid of? [by the way, all that info comes from Gaara's own memory, it has not been spun by any Konoha Shinobi].

 

[Pokeman]

Konoha is not moral, end of thread.

 

[lt_durcalo]

That still doesn't justify the things they did in the past and how they handled most ninja and people back then, they were a currupt village just like the sound were. Now, they're hinding behind a moral wall since they feel they can forget about what they done in the past. And they still kill people for no reason.

the Sound village never existed. It was a sham, a puppet put into play by Orochimaru, for the sole purpose of the downfall of Konoha.

I have yet to see - in the manga - any proof that Konoha was the start, or the source of any wars whatsoever. And by this I mean, the village, not it's deserters.

...Still kill people for no reason.

could you provide some evidence of that please...?

 

[son_michael]

first of all, let me say that this is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen. But i'll do you the decency of giving you a non hate-filled response.



I'm sorry, but every single country in the world makes teaching its own history first priority. Also, you don't see anything that was taught in the academy - so it's really illogical to think you can assess what they teach the children. A large factor in this comes from the fact that the main character, Naruto, learned absolutely nothing at the academy, but that doesn't mean they didn't teach anything. In fact, coming out of the academy, Sakura & Sasuke are at least sufficiently educated about other nations. (Sakura seems pretty unaffected by the tracker ninja in wave country). I shouldn't have to go on but I will...



In case you missed the entire political policy of the third Hokage (carried down from the 1st & 2nd), it has been to not start wars with other country. The Third's largest political opposition is Danzo, who wants to be a more aggressive country, although the rest of the village disagrees with this philosophy.

Also, it is a country where you reach adult-hood quicker than you would in America - and we don't have to cry out about that. Not a single ninja is given permission to participate in the Chunin exams unless they are deemed worthy to do so. Even Team Guy - who is a year older than the 9 rookies - was a major exception to the rule. They don't just let any children walk into the forest alone. The goal of the exams is not to kill each other, it is to work together as a team to make it through hardship. Martial arts competitions are held all over the world all the time. Do you think there are usually empty arenas for them? or do people show up to watch. Killing is not the goal, but it does happen on occasion. The matches are often stopped as soon as a winner is clear - which is long before death is imminent.



First of all, the Akatsuki had 11 members - the 10 members plus it's founder. There were 10 rings, and Madara didn't wear one. So, that's only three out of 11 (27.3%).
Secondly, since when was it a good idea to judge a society by it's criminals? Does Timothy McVay represent American ethics and values? How about Ted Kosinski? Those people do not represent American ethics. All Orochimaru, Itachi, & Madara prove is that any society can produce criminals.



Did I fail to miss a single time where Konoha accepted a mission to assassinate somebody? Most of the missions are protect this person or that person, escort royalty, so on and so forth.



All Konoha did was make itself strong, so that it couldn't be invaded. I fail to see where that is a bad thing. There is no support for a claim that Konoha has stated any wars, because it is a peace-seeking country.



Once again, you can't judge an entire society by it's criminals who are acting on their own - or at least not on the village's accord. Konoha was not behind these attacks, unassociated, evil men were.



Simple, Kishi had a lot of issues and motifs to deal with, and he decided there just wasn't enough room to cover religion.



I think that's a rather harsh interpretation. Sarutobi saw the wisdom in such a plan, but realized that Konoha did not have the numbers to facilitate such a plan. Also, it would require years and years of training to even get that off the ground, so it was not a feasible option at the time. If someone came to any President [to avoid off-topic Bush bashing] and told him we should have robot-controlled planes to reduce military casualties he would turn you away and tell you that it isn't possible at the time - because the resources and technology is not readily available. He was not cruel, he was simply stating that it was a current impossibility.



The reason that mentioning the Kyuubi/Naruto connection was forbidden was so that Naruto could have even the smallest semblance of a chance for a normal life - despite not having any family at all. It was an act of sheer kindness that Sarutobi made such talk forbidden.



Where did he manipulate history? Every adult in the village knew about Naruto & the kyuubi. The only thing that his act prevented was the children using it as fodder for hatred towards Naruto. He didn't manipulate history. All that needed to be known was that the Fox attack was stopped by Minato, that's it. It wasn't necessary for the village children to know about Naruto's secret.



If you haven't noticed yet, this isn't an age of technological revolution. There are no cell phones, no instant messaging. They still use birds to pass messages. It only makes sense that they couldn't know absolutely everything.



because 1, they have no reason to lie to the reader and 2, that is one of the primary reasons behind the Chunin exams.





Again, you don't know anything that is taught in the academy whatsoever, so you can't make a fair assessment that something like that is the case. This isn't some Nazi regime that is raising camps of children soldiers to take over the world.

This is a peaceful society, one that does not seek war, that preaches the Will of Fire, that the village is one family.

And lastly, where would you rather live, in a country where the leader fought to save the lives of everyone within it, or a country where the head council decided it was going to try and kill off a child that they were afraid of? [by the way, all that info comes from Gaara's own memory, it has not been spun by any Konoha Shinobi].

now we can end the thread


+reps for you my friend

 

[Random Nobody]

Konoha is not moral, end of thread.

Correction, it has more morals then any of the other villages we've seen.

Now we can end the thread.

 

[Pokeman]

could you provide some evidence of that please...?

Yeah, like all the time when they fight each other in the forest of death.

 

[Random Nobody]

Yeah, like all the time when they fight each other in the forest of death.

Yeah because we say so many Konoha ninja killing people in the Forest of Death.

 

[Supa Swag]

Hmm, yet another reason to root for the Mist to destroy the Leaf

 

[lt_durcalo]

Yeah, like all the time when they fight each other in the forest of death.

and in the forest of death, The rain genin wanted to kill the sand. The sand wanted to kill the rain. The sound wanted to kill many Leaf. More rain guys wanted to get the Leaf.

When exactly did the Leaf genin try and kill anybody in the forest of death?

 

[lucid dream]

Spoiler:

first of all, let me say that this is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen. But i'll do you the decency of giving you a non hate-filled response.



I'm sorry, but every single country in the world makes teaching its own history first priority. Also, you don't see anything that was taught in the academy - so it's really illogical to think you can assess what they teach the children. A large factor in this comes from the fact that the main character, Naruto, learned absolutely nothing at the academy, but that doesn't mean they didn't teach anything. In fact, coming out of the academy, Sakura & Sasuke are at least sufficiently educated about other nations. (Sakura seems pretty unaffected by the tracker ninja in wave country). I shouldn't have to go on but I will...



In case you missed the entire political policy of the third Hokage (carried down from the 1st & 2nd), it has been to not start wars with other country. The Third's largest political opposition is Danzo, who wants to be a more aggressive country, although the rest of the village disagrees with this philosophy.

Also, it is a country where you reach adult-hood quicker than you would in America - and we don't have to cry out about that. Not a single ninja is given permission to participate in the Chunin exams unless they are deemed worthy to do so. Even Team Guy - who is a year older than the 9 rookies - was a major exception to the rule. They don't just let any children walk into the forest alone. The goal of the exams is not to kill each other, it is to work together as a team to make it through hardship. Martial arts competitions are held all over the world all the time. Do you think there are usually empty arenas for them? or do people show up to watch. Killing is not the goal, but it does happen on occasion. The matches are often stopped as soon as a winner is clear - which is long before death is imminent.



First of all, the Akatsuki had 11 members - the 10 members plus it's founder. There were 10 rings, and Madara didn't wear one. So, that's only three out of 11 (27.3%).
Secondly, since when was it a good idea to judge a society by it's criminals? Does Timothy McVay represent American ethics and values? How about Ted Kosinski? Those people do not represent American ethics. All Orochimaru, Itachi, & Madara prove is that any society can produce criminals.



Did I fail to miss a single time where Konoha accepted a mission to assassinate somebody? Most of the missions are protect this person or that person, escort royalty, so on and so forth.



All Konoha did was make itself strong, so that it couldn't be invaded. I fail to see where that is a bad thing. There is no support for a claim that Konoha has stated any wars, because it is a peace-seeking country.



Once again, you can't judge an entire society by it's criminals who are acting on their own - or at least not on the village's accord. Konoha was not behind these attacks, unassociated, evil men were.



Simple, Kishi had a lot of issues and motifs to deal with, and he decided there just wasn't enough room to cover religion.



I think that's a rather harsh interpretation. Sarutobi saw the wisdom in such a plan, but realized that Konoha did not have the numbers to facilitate such a plan. Also, it would require years and years of training to even get that off the ground, so it was not a feasible option at the time. If someone came to any President [to avoid off-topic Bush bashing] and told him we should have robot-controlled planes to reduce military casualties he would turn you away and tell you that it isn't possible at the time - because the resources and technology is not readily available. He was not cruel, he was simply stating that it was a current impossibility.



The reason that mentioning the Kyuubi/Naruto connection was forbidden was so that Naruto could have even the smallest semblance of a chance for a normal life - despite not having any family at all. It was an act of sheer kindness that Sarutobi made such talk forbidden.



Where did he manipulate history? Every adult in the village knew about Naruto & the kyuubi. The only thing that his act prevented was the children using it as fodder for hatred towards Naruto. He didn't manipulate history. All that needed to be known was that the Fox attack was stopped by Minato, that's it. It wasn't necessary for the village children to know about Naruto's secret.



If you haven't noticed yet, this isn't an age of technological revolution. There are no cell phones, no instant messaging. They still use birds to pass messages. It only makes sense that they couldn't know absolutely everything.



because 1, they have no reason to lie to the reader and 2, that is one of the primary reasons behind the Chunin exams.





Again, you don't know anything that is taught in the academy whatsoever, so you can't make a fair assessment that something like that is the case. This isn't some Nazi regime that is raising camps of children soldiers to take over the world.

This is a peaceful society, one that does not seek war, that preaches the Will of Fire, that the village is one family.

And lastly, where would you rather live, in a country where the leader fought to save the lives of everyone within it, or a country where the head council decided it was going to try and kill off a child that they were afraid of? [by the way, all that info comes from Gaara's own memory, it has not been spun by any Konoha Shinobi].

Amazing post.

And with current evidence, Konoha IS the most moral village we've seen.

Itachi, Orochimaru, and Madara all coming from there doesn't change that in the slightest. All of their views and goals are not supported by Konoha, so how can they represent Konoha? Madara and Orochimaru don't even wear a Konoha headband, and Itachi has a strike through his. Forgive me OP, but isn't this a sign the shinobi is no longer loyal to that village OR its ideals?

And like has already been said, any society can and does produce criminals. There are also plot purposes for 3 major villains coming out of Konoha. And two of them are Uchiha, a clan with they're own dark history.

 

[Pokeman]

Yeah because we say so many Konoha ninja killing people in the Forest of Death.

Sasuke attempted to kill Zaku but was stoped by Sakura. And don't give me that bullshit, those henge fodder were going to kill Team 7.

Shikamaru killed, Neji, killed, even chouji killed. If any of them were moral they would have spared the oponents lives.

 

[Raiden]

Sarutobi wanted peace and to strengthen the village. That's why he encouraged the Will of Fire-just so that Konoha shinobi/villagers would see each other as a family and strive to protect the Leaf becuase of that. Konoha isn't a perfect village, but so far it is the most humane that we have seen. Orochimaru, Itachi, and Madara are no longer apart of the Leaf. You can't hold the village responsible for something that they did. The way in which they live their lives is very different from that of Leaf shinobi. Why do you think they left the village?

The Sand decided to help Naruto because it was Deidara that attacked the village. That and he captured the Kazekage. So Suna wasn't sacrificing their shinobi just for Naruto's interest, they did it because the Kazekage was precious to them.

 

[Pokeman]

If Konoha were so humane, they wouldn't have sent little children out to kill adults or protect people from jounin level ninja's that have a pension for blood.'

If they were so humane, they wouldn't have been predjudiced to the boy with the nine tailed fox demon and would have respected him from the begining.

If they were so humane, they would have kept an eye on Itachi for precautionary reasons such as him slughtering his clan for currupted power. They would have had the intell on the Uchiha's and would have provided assitance for Sasuke's family.

Yeah some moralistic village.

 

[Random Nobody]

Yes because Shikamaru, Chouji, and Neji clearly killed those guys for no reason.

Seriously if your entire argument is "They kill people" then get the fuck out right now. There the god damn military of their country of course they fucking kill people. Doesn't change the fact that they don't do any of that fucked up shit Mist and Sand did.

 

[lt_durcalo]

Sasuke attempted to kill Zaku but was stoped by Sakura. And don't give me that bullshit, those henge fodder were going to kill Team 7.

Shikamaru killed, Neji, killed, even chouji killed. If any of them were moral they would have spared the oponents lives.

Shikamaru killed? Sure, he killed the man who attacked his sensei.

Choji killed? Sure, he killed one of the men who were trying to kidnap Sasuke. And even still, he was attacked first.

Neji killed? Sure, he killed one of the men who were trying to kidnap Sasuke. And even still, he was attacked first.

If they had spared their opponents lives they would have died themselves, and never would have been able to retrieve their village member, who was being taken away.

Also, Sasuke didn't kill anybody in the Forest. The curse mark intoxicated him, causing him to lose control, it was not of his own sheer will that he was going to kill the Sound Ninja. Even tho, he was within reason to do so. The sound ninja were trying to kill his teammates. He had to stop them.

 

[Raiden]

If Konoha were so humane, they wouldn't have sent little children out to kill adults or protect people from jounin level ninja's that have a pension for blood.'

The series is about Naruto's life, and it just so happens that Naruto and his friends are teenagers. So ofcourse as the main protagonist, Naruto would have to persue the main anatagonists. I assure you that no matter what Hokage or village, Naruto would have always ended up chasing Akatsuki.

If they were so humane, they wouldn't have been predjudiced to the boy with the nine tailed fox demon and would have respected him from the begining.

Every village is predjudice against Jinchuuriki. They are the embodiment of many people's pain and loss.

If they were so humane, they would have kept an eye on Itachi for precautionary reasons such as him slughtering his clan for currupted power. They would have had the intell on the Uchiha's and would have provided assitance for Sasuke's family.

How were they supposed to know that Itachi was peculiar? Itachi put up a mask infront of everyone and kept cool in every case. He hadn't shown any signs of being a violent person until he attacked the three Uchiha Police Force members that accussed him of killing Shisui.

Yeah some moralistic village.

Like I said before, no village is perfect.

 

[lt_durcalo]

If Konoha were so humane, they wouldn't have sent little children out to kill adults or protect people from jounin level ninja's that have a pension for blood.'

If they were so humane, they wouldn't have been predjudiced to the boy with the nine tailed fox demon and would have respected him from the begining.

If they were so humane, they would have kept an eye on Itachi for precautionary reasons such as him slughtering his clan for currupted power. They would have had the intell on the Uchiha's and would have provided assitance for Sasuke's family.

Yeah some moralistic village.

Well, yea, you're right. No village would have sent children out on that mission. except the Wave country arc - that mission was a C ranked mission to guard against low-level thugs, something that even Genin level ninja could handle. The guy lied to them about the difficulty of the mission. Sarutobi never would have sent Team7 on that mission if he knew it were A/S Ranked.

The adults of the village were worried that the Fox would erupt. Think of it as a normal kid walking around with a nuclear bomb in his stomach without knowing about it. And yes, many of the villagers were in the wrong. But through time Naruto came to be viewed as a village hero, not a scapegoat.

I guess, in a society that doesn't have spy-planes, or other advanced scouting technology, there could be no reason for someone disappearing off the map. Itachi could have been anywhere in the world. Do you think that ANBU never looked for him, cause that would be naive. However he was one of the top guys on their most wanted list. Do you blame America for not instantly finding every single person on that list too?

 

[Coteaz]

Wow, the side of the protagonists is shown to be better/more ethical than those of the antagonists in a comic intended for young Japanese boys.

Shocking.

 

[lucid dream]

If Konoha were so humane, they wouldn't have sent little children out to kill adults or protect people from jounin level ninja's that have a pension for blood.'

Because they were exhuasted from Orochimaru's attack, but still had to protect themselves. Because they felt Sasuke was in danger and didn't want to just let him get taken over. Nevermind that the Sharingan falling into Orochimaru's hands could have caused their extermination. You think other countries wouldn't have wanted to prevent this from happening, if they were in a similar situation?

Mist village would have killed Sasuke outright for such a thing, not even bothering trying to save him from possible body/soul take over from a madman.

And because they had faith in their youth. Notice every child in this manga does things no normal child their age would do...because they're shinobi.
And what part of "ninja" don't you understand?
This isn't our world. Not at all.

If they were so humane, they wouldn't have been predjudiced to the boy with the nine tailed fox demon and would have respected him from the begining.

Minato and Sandaime tried to prevent that, that was the whole basis for forbidding mentin of Kyuubi sealed within Naruto . But people are naturally mistrustful and not very understanding anywhere. This is not Konoha specific at all. Sand was also just as bad, if not worse, to Gaara. This is just human nature, and no one is saying Konoha is perfect. But they are more humane and moral(or at least the leaders try very hard to make the village so, but they can't change every single person in the village) than any other village we've seen thus far.

If they were so humane, they would have kept an eye on Itachi for precautionary reasons such as him slughtering his clan for currupted power. They would have had the intell on the Uchiha's and would have provided assitance for Sasuke's family.

Uchiha cops were keeping an eye on Itachi.They were the only ones that could suspect him of Shisui's death and other evil intentions. They could have gone to the Hokage with this, but they likely didn't. If they had reasonable basis for suspecting Itachi, Sandaime wouldn't just ignore this and tell them to GTFO his office.
If they had known or had an inkling, you honestly think they would just have let Madara and Itachi slaughter the clan without even trying to assist them? No, they would have definately tried to prevent it.