Espada= Good?

Will some of the Espada turn good?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 43.5%

  • No

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 15 32.6%

  • Don't care

    Votes: 6 13.0%
  • Total voters
    46
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You know, almost half of the Espada we've seen don't seem entirely evil (well, initially they do). For example: Ulquiorra, Grimmjaw, Halibel, Zommari, Stark (especially him), and most recently, Nnoitora (!!). Do you think that if they happen to survive, they will convert to the good side? I felt sad when Grimmjaw and Nnoitora were beaten up when I thought I wouldn't! :arg
 
because they have retained some of their humanity thats why they are like that :zaru
 
Coteaz said:
None of them are 'evil'. They're just part of the balance, like Shinigami and Humans.
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Yeah pretty much. You really have to look at each one individually as well. I don't think the Espada as a whole would change sides.
 
I suppose what I meant was that they were the antagonists and were initially portrayed as unsavory and coldhearted. Their casual impressions do tend to be a bit harsher than anything we've seen from Shinigami (i.e. splitting someone's head open, sucking souls, and cero-ing someone in the head without a second thought). Yet later on they're portrayed in an almost tragic light. I was wondering if any of them would legitimately turn to the "good side."
 
[E];14515972 said:
the only evil character in bleach is old man yama :zaru
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Highly feasible. :dupe

I suppose what I meant was that they were the antagonists and were initially portrayed as unsavory and coldhearted. Their casual impressions do tend to be a bit harsher than anything we've seen from Shinigami (i.e. splitting someone's head open, sucking souls, and cero-ing someone in the head without a second thought).
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As opposed to blowing up underlings, experimenting on underlings, beating underlings, womanizing, condemming your adopted sister to execution, being a cold heartless senile old fart...(sure, most were Mayuri, but still...:LOS)?

Oh, and let's not forget the blatant discrimination against the 4th Division. Shinigami - paragons of hope, eh? :zaru

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The Espada and Arrancar are only the 'bad guys' because the story centers around a Human/Shinigami perspective.
 
Coteaz said:
Highly feasible. :dupe


As opposed to blowing up underlings, experimenting on underlings, beating underlings, womanizing, condemming your adopted sister to execution, being a cold heartless senile old fart...(sure, most were Mayuri, but still...:LOS)?

Oh, and let's not forget the blatant discrimination against the 4th Division. Shinigami - paragons of hope, eh? :zaru

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The Espada and Arrancar are only the 'bad guys' because the story centers around a Human/Shinigami perspective.
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Mayuri doesn't count and you know it. :pek

I was just wondering if any one member would actually join Ichigo and co.; Grimmjaw seems like a strong contender to me for some reason just because he's somewhat of an outcast.
 
Coteaz said:
Highly feasible. :dupe


As opposed to blowing up underlings, experimenting on underlings, beating underlings, womanizing, condemming your adopted sister to execution, being a cold heartless senile old fart...(sure, most were Mayuri, but still...:LOS)?

Oh, and let's not forget the blatant discrimination against the 4th Division. Shinigami - paragons of hope, eh? :zaru

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The Espada and Arrancar are only the 'bad guys' because the story centers around a Human/Shinigami perspective.
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/ thread :lmao
 
i think zommari in particular helped make this point, that hollows arent evil.

i hope it gets futher explored

but for now, grimmjaw is most obvious candidate to switch sides (if you count nel then obviously she is already good)
 
it depends on what Aizen has in stored for the hollow. I believe what he is doing will benefit them, so i see no reason for them to turn on Aizen.
 
Good is not the word I'd use, but they're not evil.

We already know how Aizen feels about blind admiration. It's only a matter of time before one of the more idealistic Espada realizes that Aizen doesn't have the the best interests of Hollows in mind, not as a group and not as individuals. When that happens I'm sure that we'll see one or two rebel against him. Whether that means actually joining Ichigo's group or just allying with him against Aizen is anyone's guess.

Smart money is still on Grimmjow as the first to turn, and so far both Stark and Halibel strike me as the type to have joined Aizen out of idealism, rather than for personal gain or power.
 
I hope not..

BLEACH doesn't need more crossover pussy's =O

If they would turn over then there never even was a true villian in the whole story (aside from Aizen)..
 
Yes. I believe some of the espada will turn to the side of good. Most likely Grimmjow and Halibel. I've had the feeling of Grimmjow being a more extreme version of Ishida to Ichigo for some time now. and Halibel isn't as bloodthirsty as the others.

I think Starks just lazy, not particularly good.
 
they believe in a certain something whats good to them is whats good to them whats good to the shinigami is good to the shinigami if that made sense :amuse but i really cant see espada move to the good side, maybe do their own bussiness etc otherwise it would be 100% identical to ss arc.
 
I always saw the name as being Bleach because everything is areas of grey, with neither side being purely evil or purely good. Both sides have good and bad people in them, the purely evil ones go to hell.
 
Nel already switched, so technically the answer is "Yes" by default. As for MORE switching sides, I doubt it. The Vizard have been MIA for a while and will need someone to fight.
 
......good is a bit too strong of a word. Hollows become less animalistic as they arrancarize, so naturally the qualities leading towards coheirant behavior will increase. However, keep in mind that we mostly see them interacting with other hollows and/or not with humans, and most arrancar thus far even into the ranks of the espada have been bad people in a bad way. They're deeply selfish, and the only times we've seen espada or arrancar on earth interacting with the living it typically runs in tandem with manhunts and/or mass-murder.

Nnoitra I don't think is an exception. Nor even Grimmjaw. They're basically evil people. The trend runs SO solid that I even have some doubts about Nel, who herself would probably move mountains for Ichigo right about now.


I think instances of hollow rehabilitation would be scarce at best, and any instance of a hollow of any form being a polar example of good and morality to be so exceptionally rare that only one might exist in the whole Bleachverse. Mayuri is nearly the pinacle example of an evil Shinigami, and even he has his interests in retaining a standing with his own side, soooooo yeah, I will be shocked if any mass-influx of "good" arrancar into the ranks of the good-guys occurs.
 
I think once a Hollow removes its mask, it restores the traits the Plus originally had. Like when Orihime's brother removed his mask, for example. Thus, if the Hollow was a mass murderer before death, he'll still be an evil son of a bitch after Arrancarization. Likewise, if they were a genuinely good person who got screwed over, and managed to fight his/her way to the top, they'll probably be a good person after the Arrancar transformation.

So really, whether an Espada/Arrancar is evil or not is probably dependent upon what they were like before becoming Hollows. Grimmjow probably isn't "evil", it's just that he was an animal that was a natural born predator.
 
I've already named Grimmjow as part of Team Kurosaki but as for the rest of the espada it wouldn't make any since for them to go to the "good" side. I mean, what were they doing on Aizen's side to begin with?
 
Sasori-puppet#99 said:
The only Espada that's completely evil is Szayel. And he isn't even that "evil". Just mad.
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Szayel's totally evil. he wears a dress and dyes his hair pink to trick his enemies into thinking he's gay and then rapes them with anaconda-sized dicks that burrow underground.

speaking of him, i wonder if arrancar are born knowing what they can do. i mean, Szayel's ultimate powers are cheating death by sexing people and assimilating anything that eats his flesh into a minion. how the fuck did he come across these tricks of his?
 
When Ichigo and crew initially went to SS, it seemed they would be against all the captains, but some of them did switch sides and helped them! Seems typical to me if some of the arrancar do the same. Besides, hasn't Nel essentially done that now?
 
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