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Bleach: CFYOW - Power Levels Edition

Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Ok, so here we go.

The plan, in case Yhwach managed to kill the Reio, was for Ichigo to take its place. The only reason he is not the Reio, was because Yhwach absorbed the original's powers and become "it".


Honestly, is fuck up, considering Ichigo though of this guys as allies. Yet they would have no fucking problem subjecting him to the same state as the original Reio.

Nel's Balas feel like a punch in the head,

And she considers herself powerful enough to beat up Grimmjow and drag him back to Hueco Mundo, if she can catch him at the right moment.

Also, it was Nelliel together with Ichigo and the others that recued Harribel. So pretty much .

Also, just looking at Yhwach as the Reio, makes Halibel understand why Aizen hated that thing.

Killing Nelliel, Harribel and Grimmjow would throw the world out of wack and endanger the delicate balance that was created.


As long as a piece of their palaces stand, the Squad Cero can be "woken" again, and they won't die unless you destroy everything.


While is preferred for Ichigo to be present to seal Aizen as he is one of the few people that can fight him, Urahara feared he would influence his inner Hollow.


So, there is possibility his Hollow and Quincy powers had been restored too when his Bankai was. But this is doubtful, is never explicitly stated Ichigo's Hollow powers had come back.


The earthquakes around the world were powerful enough that people created religions

The boundaries were being destroyed, not the worlds themselves, the next friend that tells me Yhwach can destroy the world, I will put my dick in their mouth.


The Threes Bestias are stronger than Rudbornn.



Giselle can only turn Hollows into Zombies temporarily. What happens after that is anyone's guess.



Hashwalth's assistant/advisor, is stronger than some Sternritter, and she decided to remain by his side instead of becoming one herself.



Gerard is the retainer of the heart of the Soul King, not the Soul King's heart himself. Similar to Ukitake and the Mimihagi.



Haschwalth saw the future with the mask of the ruler, and saw that Uryu would do something that would make him lose face with Yhwach.



Uryu and his father may be able to use Vollsterndich.



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BreakingBack5

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If Urahara stated Aizen could mess with his inner hollow isn’t that pretty much a confirmation though ? Also kinda off topic, but you ever find it weird that Lilttoto and Gisselle dodged auswhalen and only lost their vollstandig, Robert, Gerard and Jugram got hit directly by it and died. But Bazz B gets hits directly and only lost his vollstandig? Like what?
 

Sablés

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If Urahara stated Aizen could mess with his inner hollow isn’t that pretty much a confirmation though ? Also kinda off topic, but you ever find it weird that Lilttoto and Gisselle dodged auswhalen and only lost their vollstandig, Robert, Gerard and Jugram got hit directly by it and died. But Bazz B gets hits directly and only lost his vollstandig? Like what?
Na3 got hit directly and was down for the count. He still survived.

Auschwalen makes no sense.
 

BreakingBack5

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Na3 got hit directly and was down for the count. He still survived.

Auschwalen makes no sense.
True that man lmao. Too add onto that every time it’s always been a beam of light but it sure as hell wasn’t when he used it Gerard. It really doesn’t make any sense
 

Sablés

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True that man lmao. Too add onto that every time it’s always been a beam of light but it sure as hell wasn’t when he used it Gerard. It really doesn’t make any sense
Yhwach infused Auschwalen with the SK's darkness/ink so we can excuse that one, but Auschwalen was wonky as fuck even before that so :jaeshrug
 

MarchLochnessMarch

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If Urahara stated Aizen could mess with his inner hollow isn’t that pretty much a confirmation though ? Also kinda off topic, but you ever find it weird that Lilttoto and Gisselle dodged auswhalen and only lost their vollstandig, Robert, Gerard and Jugram got hit directly by it and died. But Bazz B gets hits directly and only lost his vollstandig? Like what?
Yeah that was just straight-up sloppy.
 

Skiltron

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So, there is possibility his Hollow and Quincy powers had been restored too when his Bankai was. But this is doubtful, is never explicitly stated Ichigo's Hollow powers had come back.

I've been saying this for months and idiots belieaving in redditers translations denied it.
 

Ultrafragor

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There's some nice insights mixed with some crack tier power leveling.

Ichigo's inner hollow should be gone, his Quincy power probably went back to being suppressed and he won't bother learning to use it. Fullbring will stay dormant (or is possibly permanently gone now that white is gone?)

So, he really is just a shinigami now.
 

Medjaynegus

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If Urahara stated Aizen could mess with his inner hollow isn’t that pretty much a confirmation though ? Also kinda off topic, but you ever find it weird that Lilttoto and Gisselle dodged auswhalen and only lost their vollstandig, Robert, Gerard and Jugram got hit directly by it and died. But Bazz B gets hits directly and only lost his vollstandig? Like what?
Jugo did not die immediately and Uryuu mother survived as well. Its a holy selection some will eventually die from it and others die immediately.
 

Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Liltotto doesn't know the full powers of the royal guard. But among them, she singled out Gerard.
Well, the fucker in base was able to do more damage to the Tree of Life with a single shockwave than Lille with 4 consecutive bullets. And has his Miracle power on top of that, he certainly is not slouch.
 
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Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Continuation #1

Ichigo is the strongest thing Gigi and Lil could Zombify, but can't due to the people he is surrounded with would intervene even if they were capable of catching him by surprise.

Urahara, Uryu, Isshin and Ryūken would notice and stop them.


Rudbornn was able to counter Bambietta's powers, by simply creating even more enemies than she could create Reishi bombs,

This method of increasing his numbers, was something he acquired when training to be able to counter Rukia's cold, by creating roots under the cold sands of Hueco Mundo. My dude is broken.

Liltotto can eat almost a thousand of the Calaveras, but she can only do so two or three more times before she is trouble due to them being Hollow Reishin in origin.



Rudbornn can use the Calaveras as a flesh wall to protect himself.



Liltotto's powers were able to digest and understand the power of those she ate, is only temporarily, and she able to ultilize those powers by herself.

Is strong enough to counter the Calaveras, and Harribel's water is capable of blocking it. Also, Yhwach is likely immune to Pepe's "The Love" power, most likely in reference to the Almighty's ability to understand whatever power he sees and automatically become immune to that power.


Lily says they need to be wary of Harribel in particular due to Yhwach deciding to fight her himself.



Hikone falling on the earth, leaves a crater bigger than the Quincy's attacks and his Reiatsu reminds Grimmjow of Shinji.



The Calavera's swords break against Hikone's skin



The battle with the Arrancars and Quincy, left him so beat up that more than in verge of dead, he was a walking corpse.



Seinosuke's healing is probably better than Unohana's.



Hikone can easily blitz Hisagi. Similar to what Yoruichi did to Yammy.



Hanataro compares Hikone's recovery rate with Ichigo's and Zaraki's.

This is a glimpse as not just his recovery, but to just like with Ichigo and Kenpachi, he grows through battle like them.


Ok, time for Hikone's stats and abilities.

Hikone was able to easily defeat Rudbornn, Loly and Menoly, and Harribel admits, that if it wasn't for Grimmjow, Nelliel, Liltotto, Giselle and Bambietta, she also would have lost to him.
In terms of Reiatsu he is definitely a Captain lv, but in terms of stats, he is like Hitsugaya.
They were able to defeat him, but Ikomikidomoe rescued him and saved him.
He can use both versions of Blut.
He was able to deflect Liltotto arrows.
His main weakness is his immaturity.
Grimmjow even compares his ability to grow with those of Ichigo.
 
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Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Continuation #2


Akon says he heard that their abilities were like those a lower lv Captain,

So, before their power ups, is possibly they were in the lower side of a Captain lv.


Tokinada easily defeats 8 assasins on the lv of seated officers,



Mayuri seems to have beaten Urahara with Nemu, as Jinta and Ururu are likely the same thing, just different in their inside.



Seinosuke is likely to be a smart as Urahara, in the sense he makes a thousand plans to accomplish his goals, but he focuses on healing people, instead of his own survival.



Candice's Electrocution was more powerful than natural lightning, but it wasn't as powerful as it once was, also, Tsukishima was able to easily protect himself and the others by making a huge tree.

Also, Ginjo's Getsuga was powerful enough to pierce and blow distant hills.


Nanana's The Underbelly's Morphine Pattern, works to paralyze the target via the Reiatsu, and while it worked on Aizen, it doesn't work on Mayuri, because he can change his Reiatsu pattern at will.



Urahara is working on a project called, "How to make a Demonic Soul Reaper"

After Yhwach's defeat, Yoruichi spend sometime kicking everyone that saw her transform until they forget what happened.


Fullbringers are essentially mutated humans, and Orihime is confirmed to be one.



In terms of a simple strength contest, Meninas' brute force is likely unbeatable by even Zaraki Kenpachi.



Giriko had made a mistake when he last faced Kenpachi, because he had to sacrifice time in order to make a successful contract with the "God of Time".

Meaning, Post Time Skip Kenpachi got pretty lucky he last fought Giriko.


Giriko was powerful enough to take every Meninas could dish out while in her Hulked out form, and hit her with a tackle equivalent to a train hitting a large cow.

The tackle in it self, while it send Meninas flying into the sky, she landed without any incident. Candice's arrows could pierce Giriko, but they weren't powerful enough to make it hurt.


Grimmjow is able to rush through 3 spirit miles in a couple of seconds.



The Arrancars are indeed more powerful in Hueco Mundo than in any other world.

So it may explain why Ulquiorra seemed more impressive than the other top 3 Arrancars despite them ranking higher.
 
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Sablés

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So it may explain why Ulquiorra seemed more impressive than the other top 3 Arrancars despite them ranking higher.
Hueco Mundo is what allowed Chad to evolve his powers, and Ichigo's hollow mask also underwent multiple changes there. I've got a lot of problems with the novel's power-scaling, but this is consistent with the manga.
 

Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Hueco Mundo is what allowed Chad to evolve his powers, and Ichigo's hollow mask also underwent multiple changes there. I've got a lot of problems with the novel's power-scaling, but this is consistent with the manga.
Ulquiorra himself is not mentioned, that is just conjecture for me.

BTW, Urahara seems to not know what happened to Yammy,


I though Yammy was dead.
 

Medjaynegus

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He was still shown conscious after the fight with both shinigami captains. I'm assuming Urahara is just saying he isn't aware since he was not there. The last light novel confirms his death.
Ulquiorra himself is not mentioned, that is just conjecture for me.

BTW, Urahara seems to not know what happened to Yammy,


I though Yammy was dead.
 

Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
Continuation #3


Arrancars are made up of the equivalent of tens of thousands of Konpaku, and sometimes hundreds of millions.

Urahara doesn't know what happened to Yammy, but he thinks after the fight with Kenpachi and Byakuya the chances he would survive it, were low. So he had those two in high regard even in the pre-time Skip.


Ginjo, Ichigo and Hikone are the only ones that can use Ikomikidomoe.



It seems there are more Jureichi towns, while not as important as Karakura Town, they seem to have strong spiritual activity as well.

Urahara became suspicious of this and decided to stay behind.


Ginjo and Tsukishima could have easily taken out Grimmjow in the Pre-Time Skip.



Ginjo is fast enough to counter Grimmjow.



The different between Shunpo, Hirenkyaku, Sonido and Fullbring

Sonido: The Arrancar's spiritual pressure seemed to waver momentarily, as though its moving essence were like a mirage or hologram, as though it were capturing him in an optical illusion.

If Shunpo is considered the standard, Hirenkyaku's power consumption was more efficient. Fullbring, enables control over the Reishi dormant in the ground and the power to increase the ability to move itself. It disturbs the spiritual pressure of the surrounding even less than Shunpo. Just like Sonido, it allows for more covert movement and catching an opponent by surprise much more easier.

Also, Tsukishima's able to cut through Grimmjow's Hierro.


Tsukishima's weaknesses.

He can insert into anybody as long as he can cut someone. But the problem is anyone trying to kill him before, will still want to kill him after, regardless of what they would normally feel for him. Animals on the other hand, and subsequently Arrancars, will guide themselves through instinct.

Also, Grimmjow can dodge a point black Getsuga from Ginjo.


Grimmjow's Cero was able to disturb Luppi's Gran Rey Cero enough that allow him to dodge it.



Luppi's Gran Rey Cero was powerful enough to part a hill, and Tsukishima and Ginjo needed to be wary of its power.



Grimmjow is still a far more competent fighter than Luppi, and his Gran Rey Cero was able to give Ginjo's Getsuga a figth in terms of power,

Utilizing an oppening that his Cero provided, he used Sonido to disappeared and using Luppi's moment of hesitation he used it to charge a Gran Rey Cero.


While in terms of power, base Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero is equivalent to Ginjo's Getsuga, the amount of movements it requires to be discharged makes it easier to be dealt with.



Grimmjow's current Gran Rey Cero would have disintegrated Luppi in the past.

Now it only left some of his tentacles charred. Also, there is a nice insight at how much did he trained.


Shinji senses Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero but thinks he should be fine as long as he uses his mask.



Hirako thinks Hikone is dangerous.



Hikone can keep up with Hirako's top speed without much issue.
 
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Prince Idonojie

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Continuation...


Akon says he heard that their abilities were like those a lower lv Captain,

So, before their power ups, is possibly they were in the lower side of a Captain lv.


Tokinada easily defeats 8 assasins on the lv of seated officers,



Mayuri seems to have beaten Urahara with Nemu, as Jinta and Ururu are likely the same thing, just different in their inside.



Seinosuke is likely to be a smart as Urahara, in the sense he makes a thousand plans to accomplish his goals, but he focuses on healing people, instead of his own survival.



Candice's Electrocution was more powerful than natural lightning, but it wasn't as powerful as it once was, also, Tsukishima was able to easily protect himself and the others by making a huge tree.

Also, Ginjo's Getsuga was powerful enough to pierce and blow distant hills.


Nanana's The Underbelly's Morphine Pattern, works to paralyze the target via the Reiatsu, and while it worked on Aizen, it doesn't work on Mayuri, because he can change his Reiatsu pattern at will.



Urahara is working on a project called, "How to make a Demonic Soul Reaper"

After Yhwach's defeat, Yoruichi spend sometime kicking everyone that saw her transform until they forget what happened.


Fullbringers are essentially mutated humans, and Orihime is confirmed to be one.



In terms of a simple strength contest, Meninas' brute force is likely unbeatable by even Zaraki Kenpachi.



Giriko had made a mistake when he last faced Kenpachi, because he had to sacrifice time in order to make a successful contract with the "God of Time".

Meaning, Post Time Skip Kenpachi got pretty lucky he last fought Giriko.


Giriko was powerful enough to take every Meninas could dish out while in her Hulked out form, and hit her with a tackle equivalent to a train hitting a large cow.

The tackle in it self, while it send Meninas flying into the sky, she landed without any incident. Candice's arrows could pierce Giriko, but they weren't powerful enough to make it hurt.


Grimmjow is able to rush through 3 spirit miles in a couple of seconds.



The Arrancars are indeed more powerful in Hueco Mundo than in any other world.

So it may explain why Ulquiorra seemed more impressive than the other top 3 Arrancars despite them ranking higher.
I remember this legitimately pissing me off when it first came out, and the only reason it did was because Ken wouldn't stand a chance otherwise (I remember saying this yrs ago too but Ken's fans thought he was invincible for some reason). Even the 3 fodder SR Ken fodderised before encountering fake Bach played out as Ken having stupid levels of luck (or PIS) as his opponents all of a sudden forget how defend themselves.
 
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Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
I remember this legitimately pissing me off when it first came out, and the only reason it did was because Ken wouldn't stand a chance otherwise (I remember saying this yrs ago too but Ken's fans thought he was invincible for some reason). Even the 3 fodder SR Ken fodderised before encountering fake Bach played out as Ken having stupid levels of luck (or PIS) as his opponents all of a sudden forget how defend themselves.
It was luck but not that way.

Kenpachi first encountered the Gorilla, who was a scrub, he was large but was attacking when Kenpachi cut him in half. He had left Kenpachi half deft at that point. Then he encountered the girl, which her power required her to be heard in the first place, and Kenpachi just cut her throat for talking shit. Then the last guy transformed into Kenpachi, which Kenpachi just became stronger than because of his power work.

In terms of combat it requires someone with a hax or with enough of difference in power that he wouldn't be able to one shot him.
 

Prince Idonojie

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It was luck but not that way.

Kenpachi first encountered the Gorilla, who was a scrub, he was large but was attacking when Kenpachi cut him in half. He had left Kenpachi half deft at that point. Then he encountered the girl, which her power required her to be heard in the first place, and Kenpachi just cut her throat for talking shit. Then the last guy transformed into Kenpachi, which Kenpachi just became stronger than because of his power work.

In terms of combat it requires someone with a hax or with enough of difference in power that he wouldn't be able to one shot him.
There's that but there's also the fact that those fools (the Gorilla) forget how to either properly fight and utilise even his most powerful fundamentals correctly like Kirge did vs Ichigo (blut v, blut a). That stuff either makes them the most lethal race or the most tanky race in bleachverse depending of which one they activate and the most important component of this power is timing. Stupid Gorilla was rushing everyone with no caution and got treated like absolutely fodder trash when in fact we knew that blut v alone at maximum power is a terrifying defense that only the most powerful bankais have a chance of breaking.

People put fake Bach on a pedestal (likely because he literally punched Ken half-dead easy diff) when in fact his brother carried an even more lethal power (he could actually copy people's power) but he died like fodder trash because he was an idiot in combat. Fake Bach however made proper use of his power (and you could of course argue that having Bach's memories was what made him particularly combat effective).

The SR were stupidly op but some acted like absolute idiots in combat, and the biggest offenders were against Ken... it trivialised them for no apparent reason but to make Ken look good when in fact he was actually a weakling in the grand scheme until Unohana's trainings.
 

Divell

A Walking Jojo Reference
There's that but there's also the fact that those fools (the Gorilla) forget how to either properly fight and utilise even his most powerful fundamentals correctly like Kirge did vs Ichigo (blut v, blut a). That stuff either makes them the most lethal race or the most tanky race in bleachverse depending of which one they activate and the most important component of this power is timing. Stupid Gorilla was rushing everyone with no caution and got treated like absolutely fodder trash when in fact we knew that blut v alone at maximum power is a terrifying defense that only the most powerful bankais have a chance of breaking.

People put fake Bach on a pedestal (likely because he literally punched Ken half-dead easy diff) when in fact his brother carried an even more lethal power (he could actually copy people's power) but he died like fodder trash because he was an idiot in combat. Fake Bach however made proper use of his power (and you could of course argue that having Bach's memories was what made him particularly combat effective).

The SR were stupidly op but some acted like absolute idiots in combat, and the biggest offenders were against Ken... it trivialised them for no apparent reason but to make Ken look good when in fact he was actually a weakling in the grand scheme until Unohana's trainings.
Not all of the Quincy are equally skilled. Not that it matters, this is an stronger version of Kenpachi than the one who defeated Yammy in the first place.
 

MarchLochnessMarch

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There's that but there's also the fact that those fools (the Gorilla) forget how to either properly fight and utilise even his most powerful fundamentals correctly like Kirge did vs Ichigo (blut v, blut a). That stuff either makes them the most lethal race or the most tanky race in bleachverse depending of which one they activate and the most important component of this power is timing. Stupid Gorilla was rushing everyone with no caution and got treated like absolutely fodder trash when in fact we knew that blut v alone at maximum power is a terrifying defense that only the most powerful bankais have a chance of breaking.

People put fake Bach on a pedestal (likely because he literally punched Ken half-dead easy diff) when in fact his brother carried an even more lethal power (he could actually copy people's power) but he died like fodder trash because he was an idiot in combat. Fake Bach however made proper use of his power (and you could of course argue that having Bach's memories was what made him particularly combat effective).

The SR were stupidly op but some acted like absolute idiots in combat, and the biggest offenders were against Ken... it trivialised them for no apparent reason but to make Ken look good when in fact he was actually a weakling in the grand scheme until Unohana's trainings.
I agree that it's very odd how a lot of Sternritters didn't utilize their own basic Quincy powers practically, and that is often how they lost. It's kind of understandable why some enemies would be hand-waved when you have 25+ of them, but it creates a lot of lopsided logic. Why have Quilge Opie demonstrate these abilities that all Sternritters presumably have if the rest of the army barely ever uses them? Missed opportunity, imo.
 
Then he encountered the girl, which her power required her to be heard in the first place, and Kenpachi just cut her throat for talking shit.

How do you know that Berenice Gabrielli is a Female ?? :catthinks
It could be....but it could also be Male

They call that person both ''he'' and ''she'' in various translations and it's hard to say what gender it is based on looks.....
 
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