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Naruto A3 vs Sannin individually

Sonic

Active Member
1. A3 vs Sage Jiriaya
2. A3 vs Tsunade
3. A3 vs Hydra Orochimaru

No intel both sides.Takes place in the Rain village.

How well does he do? Make sure to include the difficulty of the matches.
 

ATastyMuffin

Kanye's Biggest Fan
He low-diffs any of them, can solo all three extreme-difficulty

He's too fast to keep away from to prep techs like Frog Song, too durable for Tsunade's CES or SMCOR to work, and can one-shot any of them with a tech far stronger than even a KCM FRS

His portrayal is also hilariously above all of them, arguably as a UNIT as well



Which lines up well with his being able to match a Bijū 1v1 and reputation as strongest Raikage; his weaker son was evenly matched with an MS user who in a weaker form with a weaker dōjutsu was depicted as stronger than or equal to the most powerful Sannin
 

ARGUS

The conqueror
He plows through each of the sannin in a 1v1.
Despite his one dimensional arsenal he is perhaps one of the worst matchups for each of the sannin, and portrayal absolutely puts him above them given the man stalemated teh second strongest bijuu

Absolute unit
 

Sonic

Active Member
He plows through each of the sannin in a 1v1.
Despite his one dimensional arsenal he is perhaps one of the worst matchups for each of the sannin, and portrayal absolutely puts him above them given the man stalemated teh second strongest bijuu

Absolute unit
I agree mostly but what about frog song?
 

ATastyMuffin

Kanye's Biggest Fan
I agree mostly but what about frog song?
Jiraiya won't get Frog Song in time

For starters, it has a double charge

First the requisite chakra to prep the tech:



Then the actual melody to ensnare the opponent:



It's not realistic against any notable speedster; I'd say folks of base Hebi Sasuke's speed and above won't give Jiraiya the time to get it off in time unless they're offensively so far below him that the guy can effectively smack them back and stall for both charges

But A3? Not only will SM Jiraiya's attacks inflict zero damage and not only is A3 tiers faster than Jiraiya, but you could stack Jiraiya's entire arsenal COMBINED and Nukite will still plow through it neg-diff
 

Sonic

Active Member
Jiraiya won't get Frog Song in time

For starters, it has a double charge

First the requisite chakra to prep the tech:



Then the actual melody to ensnare the opponent:



It's not realistic against any notable speedster; I'd say folks of base Hebi Sasuke's speed and above won't give Jiraiya the time to get it off in time unless they're offensively so far below him that the guy can effectively smack them back and stall for both charges

But A3? Not only will SM Jiraiya's attacks inflict zero damage and not only is A3 tiers faster than Jiraiya, but you could stack Jiraiya's entire arsenal COMBINED and Nukite will still plow through it neg-diff
How many Jiriaya's needed to beat A3 do you think?
 

ATastyMuffin

Kanye's Biggest Fan
How many Jiriaya's needed to beat A3 do you think?
At least 3

For my money, all the Sannin are equal

SM Jiraiya ~ Byakugō Tsunade ~ Hydra Orochimaru
- With Part 1 Edo Tensei Orochimaru being above all three iterations

I used to think SM Jiraiya was a cut above the others, but given the guy's performance against the three Paths - especially Animal - I realized he was being put on a pedestal solely because of outmoded P1 statements and SM hype, and that actual feats peg him as a slightly above-average mid-Kage. Him admitting inferiority to a group where 2/3 were glorified Jōnin at best really solidified his standing for me

Now, three SM Jiraiyas have the tools to get it done, it won't take much time for A3 to kill off one, but two should give the third enough to ready Frog Song
 

xingi

Well-Known Member
Jiraiya won't get Frog Song in time

For starters, it has a double charge

First the requisite chakra to prep the tech:



Then the actual melody to ensnare the opponent:



It's not realistic against any notable speedster; I'd say folks of base Hebi Sasuke's speed and above won't give Jiraiya the time to get it off in time unless they're offensively so far below him that the guy can effectively smack them back and stall for both charges

But A3? Not only will SM Jiraiya's attacks inflict zero damage and not only is A3 tiers faster than Jiraiya, but you could stack Jiraiya's entire arsenal COMBINED and Nukite will still plow through it neg-diff
One other thing people forget from his arsenal probably because he didn't use it on panel is black lightning and considering he thought darui he should have the same abilities for long range if he needs it
 

deltaniner

Primera Espada
Hydra Orochimaru: A3 mid-high diffs. Gyuki>>>Orochimaru, and A3 could wrestle that thing.

Byakugo Tsunade: He low-mid diffs. He's faster than Tsunade, at worst only hits slightly softer, is more durable, and can outlast her.

SM Jiraiya: Depends on if A3 can close the distance. If Jman can keep him away, he might be able to win. But if A3 gets close, he has it in the bag.
 

Bonly

Well-Known Member
The Sandaime would lose to Jiraiya and Orochi more times then not while a fight against Tsunade would be a close one that could go either way
 

Shazam

⚡⚡⚡
1. A3 vs Sage Jiriaya
2. A3 vs Tsunade
3. A3 vs Hydra Orochimaru

No intel both sides.Takes place in the Rain village.

How well does he do? Make sure to include the difficulty of the matches.

Of the 3, Orochimaru has the best time against A3 and Jiraiya has the worse (in terms of matchup)

But nonetheless there is a win condition for all of them.
 

DaVizWiz

Well-Known Member
Jiraiya can win with Frog Song, Dust Cloud and Smoke Bombs let him pretty easily drop Bunta on him in guise, smack him with SCOR pushing Nukite into him for a critical laceration or just horse collar and pull the dude into his gourd like he did Animal with the super strength, Ei3 is easier to separate from than Pain which Jiraiya did while critically wounded and limited to a couple of his Jutsu with only one hand, and it’s pretty clear SM Jiraiya can do it better than Dodai who separated another person from Ei3 albeit with a huge starting distance

Tsunade’s petite frame and limited durability body gets exploded apart by Nukite easier than Ei3’s bull V3+ Susano body almost was

Oro gets slashed thousands of times and eventually succumbs to fatigue, he’s the worst suited to battle since Ei3 is a registered monster tamer and slayer, and pushed an actual immortal one that would walk through Hydra to death’s door when it didn’t heed the whip crack
 
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t0xeus

hi it's me t0x
Ei3 low diffs each of them
They push it to high diff if they fight as a collective

His durability, attack potency and speed is too far above their paygrade
Of the 3, Orochimaru has the best time against A3 and Jiraiya has the worse (in terms of matchup)

But nonetheless there is a win condition for all of them.
So many words used yet you don't really say anything

Even P1 Konohamaru has a win cond against SM Jiraiya

That doesn't mean he can actually capitalize on it even if we run the battle simulation 1000 times

Same thing here
 

Reddan

Well-Known Member
He defeats all of then. He is the strongest kage outside Konoha. He drew with the 8 tails, seemed to have more respect than Tobirama and could tank attacks from KCM Naruto.
 
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