[100% FACT] Orochimaru: Self-Made Bijuu

Could Orochimaru become a Bijuu given eough time?

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Rikudou

God of Logic
[100% FACT] Orochimaru: Self-Made Monster

Orochimaru... what a guy. In this thread I'm going to reveal that, given enough time, Orochimaru would have become a SELF-MADE Bijuu...
Almost every single ability of his has been self-thought and made. Orochimaru, Rikudou, Nagato and Minato are the 4 most original and talented jutsu creators in the Narutoverse.
There's nothing Orochimaru couldn't have done, including becoming a Bijuu.
Orochimaru fans will absolutely LOVE this.

Why and How?
First as an intro I urge you to read this: Orochimaru's Immortality Jutsu: 3 Years
In this thread I logically explain what actually happens when Orochimaru takes you over. I explain (and I am supported by the Databook) that Orochimaru devours your soul and that your abilities (even genetic ones) are all carried in the soul. That explained how Shodai retained his genetic abilities when only his soul (not his original body) was brought back.
READ IT!!! :pek


Last 2 Chapters
We get confirmation that Sasuke received extra chakra to his own supply from absorbing Orochimaru.
That means that with every single body that Orochimaru took, he received their chakra capacity and added them to his own. He MADE himself a chakra monster and given time he could devour so many souls and add them to his capacity that he would have Bijuu-level chakra.
Yamata no Jutsu and Bijuu-level chakra= Bijuu. He would look like one and have the chakra for it :amuse.
If it looks like a Bijuu, smells like a Bijuu and acts like a Bijuu, it's a Bijuu.
Narutoverse would eventually have 10 legendary Bijuu. Let's not forget that Shukaku himself was once a mere Priest!

Even if he had to take over 100 people to become one, he COULD and that's what matters. Taking over Kisame would be a good first choice :LOS

Even though this is practically canon I am still interested in your opinions.
What do you guys think?

*Everyone who reads this should vote so we can decide whether it's canon. I expect a high approval rating* :pek
 
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If Oro were a bijuu, Zetsu would have said so. "Yay Itachi finally captured the eight tails" etc.
 
If Oro were a bijuu, Zetsu would have said so. "Yay Itachi finally captured the eight tails" etc.

Something tells em you didn't read his post.

He was saying Orochimaru could become a Bijuu, not that he was one.
 
If Oro were a bijuu, Zetsu would have said so. "Yay Itachi finally captured the eight tails" etc.

You dissapoint me Grbblt:(. Did you even READ it?
I didn't say he WAS a Bijuu, I said he definately has the potential to BECOME one. He has all the building blocks to gain that chakra.
You don't even have to call him Bijuu, just Bijuu-esque. He would have the chakra/size/ability/power/ability of one, but just not one one the contemporary 9.


Everyone, as an exception, DO NOT listen to Grbblt!!! :zaru
Grbblt is sick right now, he'll cloud your judgement! :LOS
My logic is strong!!! :nuts
 
Dude, i have a feeling that you bleed, sweat, and even shit logic

you are logic! :edu
 
You dissapoint me Grbblt:(. Did you even READ it?
I didn't say he WAS a Bijuu, I said he definately has the potential to BECOME one. He has all the building blocks to gain that chakra.
I read this:
Orochimaru: Self-Made Bijuu

Seems to me you're saying he made himself a bijuu. Not my fault if you can't write titles properly.
 
I read this:
Orochimaru: Self-Made Bijuu

Seems to me you're saying he made himself a bijuu. Not my fault if you can't write titles properly.

Grbblt... Grbblt... Grbblt...
Oh great and noble Grbblt.
Do we not all spice up our titles to attract attention?
Do the newspapers not use the same tactic?
Do titles HAVE to represent the actual text?
I think we both know the answer...

More importantly: Do you REALLY think I, gifted with logical reasoning, am one of those idiots who claim that Orochimaru is the eight-tails?
You have hurt me Grbblt...:(

[E said:
]Dude, i have a feeling that you bleed, sweat, and even shit logic

you are logic!

Dude, that's the greatest compliment someone can give me!
I AM Logic!!!
Thanks I see it now!:laugh

EDIT: Not shure if I shit logic aswell, though... Lemme check...
*goes to shit*
:wtf!
I shit logic!
 
Yes.


The worse kind.


Yes.

Actually, I have caught high-quality newspapers do the same thing here in the Netherlands. As long as the subject is very controversial.

And I don't think you should come up with excuses for responding without reading the text. Let's just give it a rest.
What do you actually THINK of thread?:)
 
Ignoring the pointless bickering...

Yes. It's perfectly possible. After all, Shukaku was once human.
 
Oro as a bjiuu? :oh Hmm...... :amazed

So you agree?

Anyway, I can call it 100% fact. If he gains chakra by absorbing others, he could theoretically reach a point where his chakra is just as massive as/greater than, for instance Shukaku.

Pain said:
if a man can become a God, Oro assuredly could have turned into a bijuu...

and still can

Heh, coindicently, Bijuu are one level below Gods, so Pain would still own Oro. :LOS But they are both amazing and original ninja that don't rely on others to gain strenght. They revolutionize shinobi skill.

Uchiha Avenger said:
from where do we now that Shukaku was human?
During the Gaara arc it was explained that Shukaku was once a sand priest and when he was a Bijuu he was sealed in a kettle with a uber-sealing technique. That means he was once human and he turned into a Bijuu. So could Orochimaru.

I wonder how freakishly strong Shukaku was as a shinobi!


btw: hi everyone, first post
Welcome to the forumz! I'm honored that you chose to make your first post in one of my logic threads!
Am suspicious of your name though... I don't like Uchiha's except Sasuke... :pek
 
So you agree?
During the Gaara arc it was explained that Shukaku was once a sand priest and when he was a Bijuu he was sealed in a kettle with a uber-sealing technique. That means he was once human and he turned into a Bijuu. So could Orochimaru.

I wonder how freakishly strong Shukaku was as a shinobi!

Welcome to the forumz! I'm honored that you chose to make your first post in one of my logic threads!
Am suspicious of your name though... I don't like Uchiha's except Sasuke... :pek

thanks, i didn't pay attention to this :D

the name's quite random.. i liked the whole avenger thing in the first part of the manga, but i'm not an uchiha fanboy :p
 
Yeah... he could become a true monster... but not a tailed beast... he'd be a headed beast get it? :LOS...



and lol Grrrblt... lol...
 
This could be possible. After all, the Shukaku was once a human sand priest. So I don't know, but maybe Orochimaru might become the 10 tailed-beast (yes, I know there's only 9 Bijuu).
 
Yeah... he could become a true monster... but not a tailed beast... he'd be a headed beast get it? :LOS...

Actually if you look closely at Yamata no Jutsu he also head 8 tails.
You could call him a 8-tails-8-head Monster. :hehee

and lol Grrrblt... lol...

What do you mean :laugh

Chaos Hokage said:
This could be possible. After all, the Shukaku was once a human sand priest. So I don't know, but maybe Orochimaru might become the 10 tailed-beast (yes, I know there's only 9 Bijuu).

yup. It's only hypothetical though, since Bijuu have at least 100 times the chakra of humans. That would take Oro around 300 years. 200 if he only takes over chakra-monsters like Naruto and Kisame.
Still cool that he CAN though :LOS

Orochimaru is the self-made guy:
- NO genetic/blood-limit jutsu? Create one.
- Fancy a specific existing bloodline? Take over one over them
- NO time to take over? Add their genes to your own and take their power anyway.
- No Bijuu? BECOME one.

What a villain, what a monster. Truely admirable.:amazed
That is Orochimaru.
 
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Actually, I support you. I am not saying Orochimaru can already compete with the other bijuu, but I say he gave us a big deal of information on their origins. Just as you say, Shukaku was once a mere priest, and he turned out as a demon. Did anyone notice the three-tailed water beast had some kind of human face? at least, for me, it looked like he had a human face covered behind a mask.

Makes you wonder who Kyuubi was in his possible former life... The sage of six paths?
 
Ah, so Orochimaru has the chakra capacity and ability similar to a bjuu. That's an interesting find. I doubt that anyone would call him a bjuu though, he would just be revered to be beyond some of their levels.
 
Actually, I support you. I am not saying Orochimaru can already compete with the other bijuu, but I say he gave us a big deal of information on their origins. Just as you say, Shukaku was once a mere priest, and he turned out as a demon. Did anyone notice the three-tailed water beast had some kind of human face? at least, for me, it looked like he had a human face covered behind a mask.

Makes you wonder who Kyuubi was in his possible former life... The sage of six paths?


I was thinking the same thing. If every bijuu was once a ninja, what could the Kyubi be. Don't forget, four-tailed Kyubi Naruto pwned Oro. So, by that logic, the human ninja that turned into the Kyubi was an even more powerful ninja then Oro.

What if it was the Sage of the Sixth Paths? Maybe when Naruto gains complete control over the Kyubi, he will gain Rinnegan.
 
Flawless win :zaru

Awesome thanks!

Kikai said:
Actually, I support you. I am not saying Orochimaru can already compete with the other bijuu, but I say he gave us a big deal of information on their origins. Just as you say, Shukaku was once a mere priest, and he turned out as a demon. Did anyone notice the three-tailed water beast had some kind of human face? at least, for me, it looked like he had a human face covered behind a mask.

Exactly. I didn't say he already was a Bijuu, just that he had the potential to grow into one. Orochimaru shows just a glimpse of how a Sand priest could grow into a Bijuu.

Makes you wonder who Kyuubi was in his possible former life... The sage of six paths?

You have excellent deduction abilities. That is the natural question I intended to make that flows out of this thread.

Raiden said:
Ah, so Orochimaru has the chakra capacity and ability similar to a bjuu. That's an interesting find. I doubt that anyone would call him a bjuu though, he would just be revered to be beyond some of their levels.

I didn't say he already has comparable chakra. It's still too low but he should have around 4 times the normal human amount, since he's taken over 4 people now right? He said he used the jutsu three times before his fight with Sarutobi.

EverEndingStory said:
I was thinking the same thing. If every bijuu was once a ninja, what could the Kyubi be. Don't forget, four-tailed Kyubi Naruto pwned Oro. So, by that logic, the human ninja that turned into the Kyubi was an even more powerful ninja then Oro.

What if it was the Sage of the Sixth Paths? Maybe when Naruto gains complete control over the Kyubi, he will gain Rinnegan.

It would be VERY interesting if it were Rikudou, but he would have had the Rinnegan and related abilities. Rikudou may still have had a role in the creation of Bijuu though, that's unclear.
 
LOL, not surprising from a guy who has porn all over his sig... :laugh

Anyway, I want to know how ~GoW~ and Ackwell think about this... :(
 
If Oro were a bijuu, Zetsu would have said so. "Yay Itachi finally captured the eight tails" etc.

There must be something wrong with you... The post is saying Orochimaru has the same characteristics as a bijuu. Your reply: "If Oro were a bijuu, Zetsu would have said so". Jesus...

Even Kabuto said it a while ago "Shouldn't we call this a fight between two monsters instead of two ninjas?".

In your mind, you must be thinking "pfff... fanboys... comparing Orochimaru to Kyuubi".

Rikudou said:
Anyway, I want to know how ~GoW~ and Ackwell think about this...

I've been saying a similar thing for ages. Orochimaru might not be an effective bijuu, but he has evolved into a true godlike entity, in the sense that rules applied to him are different from those applied to others. Even his remains have a counsciouness. What is that? Its a clear sign that he is indeed a supernatural form of energy.
 
Even his remains have a counsciouness. What is that? Its a clear sign that he is indeed a supernatural form of energy.

Which flows seamlessly into my Oro thread. smile-big

Rikudou: I repped you for this thread last night, but I'd just like to take the time to reply and say that, yes, I agree with your logic, even though your scenario may or may not play out in canon. I completely forgot about Shukaku's humanity, and now I wonder whether it is actually possible to become an immortal, demon-like entity within the span of one's human existence in the Narutoverse. At any rate, Shukaku managed to do it. And like Kikai already mentioned, it'd be really interesting to know who the Kyuubi was in a former life (if it is indeed a human in origin like Shukaku and not a straight up demon). God, this thread has made me think. Haven't seen many lately that have done that, so you deserve the reps. :)
 
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