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  • Turrin I love your posts they are all with a sense and reasonable unlike other people post and you're probably the best NBD poster
    Turrin
    Turrin
    He was the Akatsuki member who was assembled into a two man cell with Itachi.

    There is no direct mention of strength
    Kisame
    Kisame
    Thanks.

    I'm debating someone who says that panel means Itachi and Kisame are very close in power, do you mind if I tag you to explain that the panel doesn't mention power if translated correctly?
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Well it doesn’t directly mention it but it could possibly be impled
    I see you change your stances a lot but it's never triggered by a debate here in NBD from what I noticed. Would you say that people on other sites you visit have more persuasive posters than there are on NBD?
    Hey T,
    How is it hangin ? It is good to see you still post.
    Do you read Boruto ? I heard that Kishimoto was coming back. So I'm a bit intrigued now.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Oh yeah time wise I probably put in enough time per week into the form to make a podcast, it’s just an issue with setting aside designated time rather then posting on my lunch break or something. But like I said if you do a podcast and want me to come on to talks for 30 minutes I could always try to plan something out for that, just couldn’t do one on the regular.
    Grimmjowsensei
    Grimmjowsensei
    We'll see. If I were to do a podcast on the regular I'd definitely want a co-host but I'd still get more people to join in on the conversation. That's a format I'd like. But if it were to happen, you'd definitely be on the list.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Sounds good to me
    What is your current stance on speed in Naruverse?
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Which is still a huge difference when compared to the much smaller gaps between KCM/BM/BSM
    t0xeus
    t0xeus
    Ok fair enough. Thanks for the explanation. I like this more than the idea of speed differences being small in general for everyone.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Yeah this is why speed then becomes a thing again when Ishiki and Byron Mode show up, because probably their chakras are many multiple times greater then KCM Naruto in a way those other forms aren’t (as the power cliffs if occurs again in Boruto).
    Yo, Turrin, I was thinking...do you wanna have a debate about two characters? :)
    Aegon Targaryen
    Aegon Targaryen
    Thanks.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    I would just make the thread I don’t think we need a judge for an informal debate
    LostSelf
    LostSelf
    Agreed, there's no need to be a judge for that. And you guys want, it should be at least 3 judges you can trust will keep a neutral opinion.

    I will be reading that debate, though. Deidara and Sasori are two characters I find quite interesting.
    Wanted to give you some rep for your debate with Sant, but I got this message:

    "Seriously? Do you really not have more than 6 friends on the forum? Give reputation to some other users first, to prove that you aren't a loser, and therefore worthy of our reputation system."

    :catcry
    Turrin
    Turrin
    It’s cool man, I really don’t care much about rep. Thanks for the vote
    Nice avatar. Still haven't found your old one unfortunately.
    Marvel
    Marvel
    @Turrin You need to give me more details though on how you first found it man. Im hitting a dead end. I don't even know where to start for you old sig.
    yo, that's a terrible avatar, tbh :mjlol
    B
    Blade
    try a new one, use some new content, it's upgrades time
    Turrin
    Turrin
    You got an websites with good content?
    B
    Blade
    you can always use google and find quality images, then, use sites to create avatars, like ezgif, and there you go
    Sup

    You still hold the same opinions about Tobirama?
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Yeah; I still think Tobirama is stronger then Minato if that’s what you mean. Whose faster to me really doesn’t matter the author showed Tobirama performing better then KCM Minato whose > Minato; and then said Tobirama wasn’t even at his peak as an Edo. Tandem and Edo also put Tobirama on a level beyond Minato.
    Kisame
    Kisame
    Would speed matter though? I remember you arguing speed gaps aren't that huge in thr manga (as we see also from Boruto) and that characters will be initially surprised by the speed but can later keep up and adjust.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    I think it would matter a bit in this case because when two speedsters are fighting even a small difference is highlighted like a Obito Vs Minato; however in terms of whose better overall I don’t think the speed gap matters that much; I think what’s more important is Tobirama more versatile and powerful arsenal with Edo + Tandem and many other implied Jutsu
    Hey Turrin, two questions

    1. What are some wrong opinions that you think are understandable and you can see where they come from despite them being wrong (at least in your opinion)? For example sick Itachi > SM Jiraiya like how unreasonable is it to believe that? Or Hokage Minato > Tobirama for example?

    2. Are there any recent doubts you've had regarding certain character rankings or match-ups?
    Kisame
    Kisame
    I whould say though he definitely had great potential; especially as he was only 19 and we've seen him develop jutsu on-panel
    Turrin
    Turrin
    The problem is we have seen Deidara pull out C4 right away too; so relying on a character defeating him before C4 is far from guaranteed.

    In the case of C3; does it require Prep, because he seemed able to create that C3 JellyFish against Turtle Island immediately unless that wasn’t C3; but C2, in which case why he didn’t use more powerful C2 like that in any other instance doesn’t make sense
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Enough Low/Mid Kages class h actually do have Raiton where I wouldn’t call it rare;

    Sasuke, Kakashi, Hiruzen, Kakuzu, Oro, Tsunade, Ei4, V1/2 B, etc... depending on whose in your list
    Hey, I'll get back to my debates with you in a couple of days. I'm currently focusing all my attention to the debate I'm having with Mad Scientist, so I'll be back when I'm done with that.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    What’s that debate?
    How big do you think GKF explosion is? And what similar attacks are of that size?
    We see that boss-sized Juubilings are dwarfed by it, similarly to PS&SM Mokujin dwarfing them [ch641page4], so imo GKF is a bit smaller than those constructs.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    We see that Gamaken can comfortably sit on the Pagoda so it’s massively bigger then a boss summon. I would imagine it’s as big or bigger then Kyuubi
    t0xeus
    t0xeus
    100% Kurama? That sounds plausible. Do you know what other techniques have explosion around that size?
    Previously I thought FRS is a good comparison but I realized now that GKF is much bigger than that.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Can’t really think of one
    Hey man been wanting to get back to that Edo Tensei discussion but haven't been on my laptop since and I can't write well thought out posts while on phone. I'll get to it though.

    Though you haven't responded to the discussion we were having about Edo Kage vs SM Jiraiya
    How do you think Kisame vs 3T Itachi will go? And do you think 3T Itachi is kage level?
    Kisame
    Turrin
    Turrin
    I really don’t like ranking partial characters as I don’t think that the authors intent.

    But 3T Itachi vs Kisame probably heavily depends on how Kisame chooses to fight as he can win if he keeps his distance with Large Suitons; he looses if he goes into CQC first thing
    KCM at the point where Kurama is stealing his chakra; when Kurama stops stealing his chakra he is equal to EMS Sasuke (Kabuto) fight.
    What's your current stance on Hebi Sasuke?
    Kisame
    Kisame
    So you rank PA Naruto below Itachi/MS Sasuke/Sannin?
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Yes because they have a time limit on their CS2 and SM; that these other characters don’t have. Naruto as he gets better with SM and can enter it faster it becomes more murkey lol in the Kages Arc and WA
    Kisame
    Kisame
    So when does he catch up to Danzo-fight Sasuke?
    You said Deidara with experience and knowledge could be high Kage.

    I'm interested can you elaborate.
    Turrin
    Turrin
    Well I mean with experience and without the enormous weakness to Raiton (or some counter measure against it

    IMO Deidara C2/3/4 can only be matched by High Kages in raw power. Deidara biggest flaw is his weakness to Raiton and the fact that he tends to underestimate his enemies attempting CQC or something equally stupid.
    How far does itachi get in one piece?
    Turrin
    Turrin
    I don’t know; I usually don’t know how to evaluate cross universe stuff; like how does Genjutsu work or how does speed work
    Marvel
    Marvel
    You usually assume genjutsu dosen't work unless and speed is self explanatory. The characters will usually get placed in a certain mach tier
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